Talk:Lurdusaurus/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Macrophyseter (talk · contribs) 23:59, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

This is my first time as a GA reviewer, so please bear with me.

Comments

Lead


 * "...genus of massive and unusually built iguanodont dinosaur..." Personally suggest replacing "built" with "shaped."
 * done  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "Its metacarpals (wrist bones) are fused and reinforced into a large block, and the thumb spike is remarkably enormous..." I think metacarpals and thumb spikes can be split into two sentences.
 * better?  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it's much better now. Macrophyseter &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "...900 cm (30 ft) long and 200 cm (6 ft 7 in)..." Is there a reason why this is in centimeters and not meters?
 * I wanted to remain consistent with units and avoid decimals in the lead, and I use 70 cm off the ground later  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keeping it at centimeters would arguably be more inconsistent as you put the same dimensions in meters in Description (without decimals as well). I wouldn't worry about the 70 cm mention, since that would make sense given it's below 100 cm. Macrophyseter &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * done  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Discovery


 * "She named it "Gravisaurus tenerensis"..." The name should be italicized, even if its a nomen ex dissertationae.
 * done  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "However, in 1999, before her dissertation was ever published... published the first formal description..." I don't think her thesis was ever published. Also, the current wording makes it read as if Turquet cheated Chabli out, which I highly doubt was the case.
 * fixed  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "...discovered the remains of an iguanodont..." Specify that this is the holotype specimen.
 * done  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Description


 * Double check that the tenses and comma placements are correct, this goes with every section.


 * In the first paragraph, clarify that the measurements are specifically of the holotype unless they are consistent among the genus.
 * there're so few specimens as it is so the measurements would extend to all of them  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I see. Then I think in this case that's okay. Macrophyseter &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "...but the dentary fragment..." Redundant as it's already mentioned a few lines above in Discovery.
 * fixed  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "...the dorsal centra are proportionally larger, and have shorter neural spines (which project straight up from the centrum), and less steep transverse processes..." I think the commas can be removed in this case.
 * done  User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Wikilink caudal vertebra (Vertebra#Other animals).
 * done


 * "The limbs are exceptionally built..." Elaborate?
 * The rest of the paragraph elaborates <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I meant that the term "exceptional" in this context wasn't clear to me and can use some elaborating. Perhaps this can be done by using a different adjective (i.e. "robustly"), but if "exceptional" is what the source says, I guess we can just stick with it. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  18:05, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "exceptionally massive" <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 21:41, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "The tibia is incredibly short relative to the femur – 777 mm (30.6 in) and 910 mm (36 in)" Confusing wording. Do the measurements refer to the tibia and femur respectively?
 * fixed <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The current wording is clear enough so this is optional and probably a nitpick, but I personally find it slightly awkward for the "vs." to show up at the given point (But this may be just how I'm used to reading, and others can differ). I think a wording like "...femur – 777 mm (30.6 in) and 910 mm (36 in) respectively..." or a variation would add some smoothness. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "The metatarsals were so short that they did not make contact with each other" I would suggest "The metatarsals were too short to make contact with each other" for brevity.
 * done <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Classification


 * "...as a either a derived iguanodont or somewhere intermediate between more basal iguanodonts and more derived hadrosaurs..." The current wording makes the second possibility sound like a redundant rewording of the first. I suggest a rewording to something like "...derived iguanodont or an intermediate between the iguanodonts and the more derived hadrosaurs..."
 * done <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "...still within Styracosterna..." specify that this is a clade.
 * done <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "...new clade "Iguanodontea"..." Quotations are unnecessary.
 * removed <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * The format of the cladograms seems a bit unnecessarily spacious. I would suggest formatting them to be side-by-side, as done in Elasmosaurus and Mosasaurus.
 * done <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Paleoecology


 * Wikilink facultatively (Facultative).
 * done <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A gaffe on my end, but it turns out there's a better wikilink for this (Facultative bipedalism). Apologies for the inconvinence. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * done <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

See Also


 * None of the wikilinked dinosaurs appear relevant to this article.
 * they're all possibly semi-aquatic non-avian dinosaurs <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 02:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. That works. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

All I have for now. I'm glad to have learned about this interesting dinosaur! <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  23:59, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Some more comments...


 * "...and there was likely a fleshy pad to support the weight." (Description) This is optional, but I think mentioning how this is comparable to the foot cushion of elephants would greatly help the reader understand what this means. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  13:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * source didn't make a comparison with elephants <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 17:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Moot point then. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  16:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

That's all I have. Once all the remaining points are addressed, the article should be good enough to promote to GA. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  16:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)


 * There is a "shrink-wrapped" re~storation I can try to fix if we want to use it (it was removed for that and other reasons). FunkMonk (talk) 12:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  16:19, 14 April 2021 (UTC)


 * What else am I missing? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 16:35, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That's all I have for the review, All my comments have successfully been addressed (The one about commas and tenses was more of a general reminder than a specific comment) I'll be able to promote this article. <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  17:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Conclusion
Thanks for getting yet another article to GA! <i style="font-family: Mistral; color:#000">Macrophyseter</i> &#124; talk  17:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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