Talk:Lyldoll

Criticism
We might as well put up that critics have called her a copy of Avril Lavigne or Skye Sweetnam... It's bound to happen.82.81.126.18 (talk) 13:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

U never know she might not be... I think she's amazing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.4.3 (talk) 00:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

whats her last name, or isthat even her name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.249.132 (talk) 14:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

She says she "doesn't use" a last name or something like that. I agree with the first person. She's like a worse, younger version of Avril. --DyingxToxLivexAgain Monday, 23 March 2009 13:51 (UTC)

Seriously I'd like to see you four do better --FusionOpz (talk) 13:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

^ That's not an argument. People have a right to criticize music or any other form of entertainment whether they're any good at it or not. You're just butthurt that they're shitting on a singer you like. I get sick of pretentious music critics myself from time to time, but "let me see you do better" is such a 4-year-old's argument. Just ignore them and do something more worthwhile with your time.

All I meant was that "Canadian pop//-punk girl" had been done before. I actually like the two artists I mentioned.(Now, I have no way to prove that I was the one who wrote that first comment, but I did.)67.82.181.237 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

hey
were did shiloh go to school??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.195.51.139 (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as it's not in the article, I think it's safe to assume that we don't know. Try looking for the information yourself if you want it that badly. 67.193.252.159 (talk) 00:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

^ Yikes...wanna calm down there a bit, buddy? I know it was a stupid question, but the attitude wasn't necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.52.47.40 (talk) 20:55, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Origin?
The information in the article states that she went to Vancouver after winning a contest in Edmonton; so why does it say in the infobox that her career origin is Regina? Nowhere in the article does it mention she had her start there, nor was it her birthplace... She might have been raised there, as is hinted at, but I don't see why it is her origin. 24.57.83.47 (talk) 16:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

WP:CAPS
The link given, and the singer's own Facebook, have "Doll", not an acronym. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Onision
Is her relationship with YouTuber, Greg "Onision" Jackson, not worth a mention here? It's well-documented he was abusive to her and filmed her when she was having meltdowns and seizures. He has his own Wiki page as well, so I would say that's worth at least a mention, no?

^ Don't know when that comment was written, but in November 2019 she was interviewed by Chris Hansen via video chat, which he then posted on YouTube, and in it Shiloh confirmed and detailed all of the abuse she endured while dating Onision and explained how she was dropped from her label because of what was going on. There is a paragraph about their relationship on Onision's Wikipedia page (under "Controversies"). Since she has come forward herself about the abuse, and their relationship took up a big chunk of her adolescent/young adult life, it could be worth mentioning. Journalismqueen (talk) 19:06, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

I agree. It should be mentioned. This is a major Internet scandal that has been enormously underrepresented. CPGACoast (talk) 17:22, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I disagree. This controversy is notable in the context of Jackson but not in hers. Furthermore, she is not mentioned by name in any of the reliable sources used to make up the section regarding abuse on the Onision article. Given the fine line when talking about notability and reliability, I do not think that, currently, it is notable enough to include on her page. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 13:21, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

I am here from the Chris Hansen video too, never knew she was a singer. The only reason she's notable anywhere online outside of Canada is the Onision drama. So yeah I'd say it's incredibly fucking noteworthy--if she is--it is. I would actually argue non-notability for her entire bio. But given that it seems to have rabid fans defending it and Wikipedia isn't about empiricism anymore but mob rule I'll relent and just state; most of us ONLY know her because of Onision's abuse. Not including that here is probably a careful curation by her PR firm or manager. But we aren't accountable to them, thus the article shouldn't be controlled and censored by a corporate entity outside of WIkipedia. It MUST be included to maintain any credibility of unbiasedness. --121.210.33.50 (talk) 08:01, 10 December 2019 (UTC)


 * There are two generally reliable sources that cover Hoganson and Avaroe's relationship; and . I think there is enough content between the two articles to warrant a paragraph, or maybe two. Sceptre (talk) 01:49, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

There is absolutely enough (reliable) information around to warrant inclusion; aside from the fact that Ms. Hoganson is largely known outside of Canada for her involvement in this controversy. I created a small section, each sentence is sourced, with at least one reliable source per. There was a previous edit which included too much extraneous and un-sourced information, which I deleted. Furthermore, I think it's important to remember that this article is about Ms. Hoganson; NOT Onision. Her involvement should indeed be covered, but aside from that, only the basics of the issue should be touched upon. MWFwiki (talk) 09:30, 2 February 2020 (UTC)