Talk:Lyman, Ukraine

Liman not Lyman
It’s the wrong translation. The spelling of this town should be Liman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.88.197 (talk) 00:45, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That is Russian transliteration. "Lyman" seems to be more widely used. Mellk (talk) 11:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

IPA "[ɫɪˈmɑn]" uses symbols not part of IPA/Ukrainian
The ɫ IPA symbol is not listed on Help:IPA/Ukrainian. I do not speak or read Ukrainian, but I assume that the intent is for a palatalized lateral consonent. my guess is that the IPA symbol that would be consistent with IPA/Ukrainian would be l⁽ʲ⁾. Alternatively the Help:IPA/Ukrainian would need to be amended to include ɫ for the palatalized lateral. JPGoldberg (talk) 05:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * ɫ is likely correct here. l⁽ʲ⁾ would be expected in case the name were *Лiман. и doesn't palatalize, i does.--Knižnik (talk) 01:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Recentism
The article is filling up with excess info from the last few days. So even though the history of Lyman starts in the Neolithic, this year's events take up over a third of the article, and most of that is about the recapture by Ukraine today. That's not what Wikipedia was made for, we have Wikinews for that. So can we just cut the last paragraph of the history section to "On 27 May, Russian troops took Lyman. The Ukrainian army recaptured the city on October 1, as part of its counteroffensive. The loss of Lyman was a major tactical and psychological blow for Russia"? That should be enough. Steinbach (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Neolithic and Scythian
On 1 October 2022 Mike Stoyik added, among other things: "Archaeologists have discovered Neolithic stone sculptures in the Lyman district and Scythian remains from the fourth and third centuries BCE." There is no cite for this. Shouldn't there be one? Peter Gulutzan (talk) 16:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

The Two Battles
Two battles occurred in Lyman during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. However, the current redirect only includes the Second Battle of Lyman—it should include both. [@Rodw] - MateoFrayo (talk) 13:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't quite understand this comment. The disambiguation page Battle of Lyman lists four battles with two in 2022. The article text includes "On 23 May, Russian forces were reported entering the city of Lyman, fully capturing the city by 26 May" and "The offensive continued pushing east and by 2 October, Ukrainian Armed Forces had liberated another key city in the Second Battle of Lyman". The link to Lyman in the first one (relating to 23 May) could be changed to First battle of Lyman if you feel that is more appropriate.&mdash; Rod talk 14:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it so that both are linked. HappyWith (talk) 18:21, 28 October 2023 (UTC)