Talk:Lyonesse Trilogy

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I started a list of characters. I'm not sure how best to organize it; a simple alphabetical listing would probably be too confusing unless we seriously limit the size of the list. Maybe we could go alphabetical and bolden the most important ones? Suggestions welcome... &mdash; B.Bryant 02:12, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I added a few more, Melancthe, etc. What does "dischronated" mean in regard to Dhrun? I can find no definition on any onlnie dictionary. Peter1968 09:54, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * It was a bad choice of words on my part. I thought I remembered 'dischronation' as a reference to displacement in time (in the title of an old SF story), but now that I look it up it appears to be a medical term referring to something else. It needs to be changed here. &mdash; B.Bryant 11:07, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * I put in a plot summary for Lyonesse. It's a complicated book and this is a short as I could make it, but I'm concerned its too long, plus the other two books have to go here. Any feedback? Thatcher131 04:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks very sound to me (as does the Green Pearl). I've yet to find a copy of Maduoc so can't comment on that one. Good work though about a great series. Lisiate 23:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate that. The Madouc summary is pretty good (by someone else) although I was thinking of expanding just a tad.  I was also going to remove Main characters since it is somewhat redundant with Setting the scene and the expanded plot summary.  Thoughts? Thatcher131 (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sounds reasonable to me.Lisiate 23:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wessex Reference
Corrected from "George Elliot's 'Wessex'" to "Thomas Hardy's 'Wessex'". Hardy created the Literary "dream county" Wessex - not George Elliot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JTGILLICK (talk • contribs) 18:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Vance and homosexuality
I added some notes about which characters are gay, & acknowledged that Vance tends to associate homosexuality with his villains -- I love Vance's work, but don't see any reason to hedge about that issue. --Andersonblog 23:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll argue that he associates sybaritism with his villains moreso than homosexuality.
 * Tamurello, who had an affair with Carfilhiot, also had a "thing" with Desmei, a woman. So, he swung both ways. It isn't Vance being sexist or a gay-hater or anything of the like; it's a reflection of the simple (and verifiable) fact that most brilliant people of the villanous bent aren't constrained by social mores or sexual conventions. Aila Woudiver, for example. Anyhow, I've reverted your edits. Peter1968 04:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think there are a number of ways to interpret the sexuality of some of the characters. And the man-boy stuff was very Roman, which is part of the setting.  It would be better to find a source, anything else is original research.  Vance is a significant figure, I've been meaning to try to find if anyone has written a biography or analysis of his works. Thatcher131 04:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There is the Jerry Hewitt book published by Borgo Press. Also, a Texan fellow wrote a lengthy thesis on Vance's work. It used to be kept at this place but I can't seem to find it there. Peter1968 05:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Plot Summary
The plot summary completely fails to mention two of the most important players in the whole saga.

Desmei is explicitly the instigator of the entire story, although this is not made obvious until the end. It's probably worth mentioning that she actually shows up at the end and tries to kill Murgen, which is what this was all about in the first place.

Second, Persillion, the magic mirror, can be viewed as having deliberately skewed his prophecies so as to cause Casmir to self-destruct and himself to be freed.

Obviously, these aren't the protagonists, but their roles in the story are central, and they might at least warrant a mention. (Desmei is at least discussed elsewhere.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.160.198.11 (talk) 20:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Consign plot summaries to individual pages?
Considering how substantial the plot summaries for each novel are, does it make sense to move these into a page for each novel? Dhrun123 (talk) 00:16, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd support such move.--Narayan (talk) 17:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I have first editions and various reprints of all the volumes, but these are stored in the attic of a house on shores distant from where I currently reside. I am sure others have attempted this, an I am seeking examples of their efforts. TheRuork@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.50.202 (talk) 08:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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Anyone familiar with this series care to add it to this list?
Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy works (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This series would probably qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible (talk) 10:17, 26 August 2017 (UTC)