Talk:M103 heavy tank/Archive 1

Weight?
The article says 65 tons, the infobox says 57. Either one of them is incorrect or they are referring to different versions. Either way this needs to be corrected. Maury 12:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it's the whole tons / tonnes thing. It's 57,000 kg for the early models - but the later models are 58,000 kg or 58 tonnes or 64 tons. I'm not sure where the extra ton came from but I'm guessing  Megapixie 13:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I added the inch measures Safn1949 20:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Intro paragraph
The intro starts off: "The M103 heavy tank, at 65 tons, was the heaviest and most heavily armed tank in service in the United States Army and the US Marines during the Cold War". Given that the Cold War stretches to the early 1990s, this statement invites comparison between the M103 and the M1 Abrams. Even though the M1 is a much newer tank; the original M1 entering service 6 years after the last M103 was retired)

The M103 (65 tons, 120mm) outweighs and presumably outguns the initial M1 (61.5 tons, 105mm). But in 1986 the M1A1 upgrade (67.6 tons, 120mm) outweighs the M103 and the smoothbore 120mm of the M1A1 may (or may not; comparing gun effectiveness is tricky) outgun the M103.

Maybe the intro should be changed to "during the early Cold War" or something like that. - Occasional Reader 23:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * How about "during most of the Cold War?" —Michael Z. 2007-06-27 02:00 Z 

Service Length
The article says all units withdrawn in 1974 and shows the US as the sole operator, but the infobox says it was in service through 2001. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.27.145 (talk) 14:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)