Talk:M3 submachine gun/Archive 1

Article name
There's likely a better name for this article then M3 SMG.
 * How's M3 Grease Gun sound? Oberiko 23:46, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Curved barrel
A curved barrel? Serious? Why would you put a curved barrel on any gun, much less an SMG?--Polyparadigm 03:48, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if I'm remembering this correctly, since it's from a book I read as a child, but I think it was a barrel extension/attachment that would allow one to shoot around a corner.-LtNOWIS 21:55, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, the German army at least prototyped one for their assault rifle, so it could be inspired by or a confusion with that Jeremy Nimmo 05:52, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * In case anyone wonders, yes, curved barrels were designed as a way to shoot around corners. One famous German (Nazi) adaptation made for (the MP-44?) was basically a mirror attached to a bent piece of pipe, designed to be bolted to the weapon's barrel. They wore out incredibly quickly and thus were pretty limited in usefulness, but they were cheap to produce and provided decent results. Gspawn 21:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * An additional application, for the germans, was a a close-in defense weapon for tanks. A mount with a curved "barrel" was mounted through the roof. Similar to this: http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka174.html Deathbunny 05:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Versions
If there is an A1 and an A3, surely there must have been an A2 even if it never reached full service.GraemeLeggett 1 July 2005 09:45 (UTC)


 * As with the M3A2, I can find no authoritative source that mentions a M3A3 SMG. I suspect someone is getting confused by the designations for the Stuart tank or the Bradley IFV. --D.E. Watters July 1, 2005 17:41 (UTC)


 * I did some net searching, and I suspect the culprit is some poorly researched Video Game. --D.E. Watters July 1, 2005 18:26 (UTC)

Merge
This page should be merged with the M3 submachine gun page. Lefty July 8, 2005 19:40 (UTC)


 * done and dustedGraemeLeggett 8 July 2005 20:18 (UTC)

Claim of Gulf War use
I've searched online, and I've been unable to find any references to the use of the M3 in the Gulf War. Although it sounds like a fascinating story, it needs to be verifiable.

"drivers in the 19th Engineer Battalion, which was attached to the U.S. 1st Armored Division, deployed with the M3A1 as an alternate arm"

--Bluepdx 00:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Golly, I guess eyewittness reports aren't enough. Yes, they were there, in tanks or in armories, but not used much. Of course, small arms of all types were seldom used.  Given we didn't lose a single tank (that I'm aware of) there was absolutely no reason for the tankers to have used them.--Asams10 02:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Suppressed version ?
I think that the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) made a suppressed version of the grease gun, probably from the M3A1 variant because it appeared in the early months of 1945 (quoted in [www.smallarmsreview.com/pdf/OSSPistol.PDF]) Rob1bureau 09:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Anecdotal story
The following information is courtesy of Bob Caulkins. It was placed in the article by an anon. It was rv'd as original research, so I copied it from the page history to give everyone a chance to read it.

''"I carried a grease gun in Vietnam while I served with the First Marine Division (66-68). There are a several of neat things about the gun that don't appear in the description and I'd like to tell you about them. The gun had a built-in oiler in the base of the grip. After turning the gun over, the knob seen in the illustration is unscrewed revealing an oil reservoir and an oil applicator. The wire stock was a masterpiece of American ingenuity. It was a wrench for removing the barrel, the barrel had two grooves machined into it into which the wire stock was placed and then turned to loosen the barrel. One of the stock rods was threaded at the forward end to take a bore brush and drilled out to take a cleaning patch, and finally, there was a small "L" shaped piece of steel welded to the butt of the stock, as seen in the illustration, that functioned as a magazine loader. Trying to thumb load 30 rounds into the mag was a chore. This twenty-eight dollar, or so, piece of stamped, welded and machined metal was a beauty, on the several occasions when I needed it, it never failed me. "''

Mytwocents 17:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Copying from other countrys
can somebody please tell me why this article says other countrys copied this design? if memory serves me the u.s. copied it from them. look at the dates. i might be wrong. if it is trying to say it was copied from them it should be changed to be clearer. 63.22.210.20 06:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Jeff