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Creators of MAE-East
None of the sources for this are great, but I think Steve Feldman's role here as the "primary creator" is not supported in any of the given sources. The best is a single line that calls him a "principal architect" as of 1997 and nothing about his role in MAE's origin. The other two sources give his name in relation to MAE-East but again nothing about his role in the origin. It is possible to refer to Steven Feldman as a "Principal MAE-East architect" in the beer quote. Our article said "Feldman recalls" implying he was personally at the beer meeting, the source doesn't say recalls. Not to make too fine a point, reading these sources one could not determine if Steve Feldman was working for MFS at the time MAE-East was founded (I'm sure he was not doubting shows how ambiguous they are).

For Yeager, there is an extensively documented primary source he is the co-creator with Rick Adams. Even if one were to toss the book as self-published Yeager's papers which the book is based on are available and those are the primary sources. Primary sources are allowed see WP:PRIMARY, a secondary source is preferable. This source says "Yeager is best known for his work to create the original Internet peering sites" (ie. MAE-East). So we have a secondary source backing up the primary claim of "creator". -- Green  C  15:52, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I can't argue with any of that. I'd never heard of Yeager, but this old version of the MFS article] says he was VP of Sales. John Hardie was the only sales guy I ever dealt with. There's also this archived email which shows Yeager party to communications about the MAE in October of 1995. I'll ask around and see if I can find any more detail regarding their respective roles, and whether anyone can point to anything that isn't self-sourced by Yeager. Bill Woodcock (talk) 03:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah I don't know, have not read Yeager's bio, other than the free snippits online. He has a website with some interesting docs from MFS. -- Green  C  22:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)