Talk:MBTA subway/Archive 1

Key photo?
Why the change from the blue line to orange line picture? Does one portray the subway system better than the other? Tylr00 (talk) 13:54, 15 September 2016 (UTC)


 * The Blue Line photo is from an awkward angle and has poor contrast; it's not a great image to use as the lede. The Orange Line image has better contrast and is taken from a better angle. I'm not strongly attached to it if you have another image to suggest, but it's definitely much better than the Blue Line image. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:05, 15 September 2016 (UTC)


 * The Blue line picture also only captures the equipment from the deck up. The ideal photo would, I think, be something like a perspective isometric of a train just leaving a platform, showing the forward truck from front and side.  Anmccaff (talk) 18:00, 15 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not against the orange line photo, but wanted to open the discussion on characteristics for an ideal photo Tylr00 (talk) 21:09, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

System map
What does everyone think about moving the unofficial system map into the infobox, as is done on New York City Subway. I think it looks clunky where it is now as it is right next to the colors table Tylr00 (talk) 21:13, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Error of computation, or difference of definition, or overlap?
The number of RT stations does not seem to jibe with the count in the Blue Book. Anmccaff (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Recalculated and referenced Tylr00 (talk) 20:07, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * But it was still wrong. There are only 60 subway stations, unless you count Park Street, for example, as two.  Anmccaff (talk) 20:11, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Silver Line not "underground" in the usual sense
The only extensive underground section is actually underwater; this isn't the usual usage of "subway." Anmccaff (talk) 21:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The portion referred to in the article is actually the tunnel from South Station to Silver Line Way, not the TWT (which I believe is what you're referring to). Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty &#124; Averted crashes 22:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ...yupp, most of which is due to the Fort Point Channel, no? Anmccaff (talk) 22:33, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No, the FPC crossing is fairly short - only about 600 feet of the 4800-foot Transitway. The route on Google Maps is fairly accurate. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:14, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * SL1 and SL2 buses are underground for half their journey, with stations that are nearly identical to traditional underground subway stations. Courthouse (MBTA station) is one example of which Tylr00 (talk) 13:51, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The immersed tube section alone -that is, the channel crossing proper- is 700 feet almost exactly, and the approaches, NATM on the west, C&C on the east, IMS, add a good deal more. The "world trade center" (Gawdalmighty, what pretentious crap summa these name are.) station's walls break grade; it has a conventional roof, clerestories, and everything; most of the enclosed volume is above ground, and the east end daylights.  SL1 & 2 have only two stations below grade by choice. Anmccaff (talk) 17:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Let's clarify that the Silver Line is not an underground subway, but the SL1/SL2 fare system operates as if it were part of the subway system (station transfers/fare rates), which may already be covered in the articleTylr00 (talk) 21:11, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It's part subway, yeah. But only part. Anmccaff (talk) 19:04, 21 September 2016 (UTC)