Talk:MIT Center for Information Systems Research

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/MIT Center for Information Systems Research
An early version of this article has been under construction as Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/MIT Center for Information Systems Research, from 20:43, 29 March 2012‎ to 19:27, 23 April 2012‎ by Cfoglia. Now the following two sections of this article has been added to this article: There are significant reasons why Articles for creation - proposal was rejected, and why adding these text doesn't solve the initial problems. I will explain some more in the two sections below. -- Mdd (talk) 23:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * External link section
 * Key People section

External link section
In the external link section is added:
 * MIT Sloan School of Management [Official website]
 * Massachusetts Institute of Technology [Official website]
 * Sloan Management Review insert in CIO Magazine “Ignore Technology (Then Put It Everywhere)”...Why Heroes Are Bad: An interview with Jeanne W. Ross, June 15, 2010. [Link]
 * The Wall Street Journal article "IT Reuse Helps Companies Thrive" by Peter Weill, Stephanie L. Woerner and Mark McDonald, Oct. 20, 2013. [Link]
 * The European Business Review article "“How Enterprises Exploit Five Digital Capabilities to Globalise" by Siew Kien Sia, Peter Weill, and Christina Soh, September 2013. [Link]
 * The Wall Street Journal article "Four Questions Every CEO Should Ask About IT" by Jeanne W. Ross and Peter Weill, April 25, 2011. [Link]
 * Podcast on MIT Center for Information Systems Research by Jeanne W. Ross available on iTunes []
 * Credit Where It's Due, NetworkWorld [Link]

Now the problems here are: A solution would be to remove the first two links, and trim the other five links to one or two. -- Mdd (talk) 23:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The first two links relate to related institutes with own Wikipedia articles, with direct external links.
 * 2) The other links related to the work of Jeanne W. Ross and Peter Weill, who also have own Wikipedia articles now.
 * 3) So none of the links are really on topic, see also External links
 * 4) Also those other links are more or less primary source, see WP:PRIMARY, and not that appropriate

The Key people section
There are problems as well with the key people section:
 * == Key people ==
 * MIT CISR is currently led by the team of Peter Weill, Chairman and Senior Research Scientist, and Jeanne W. Ross, Director and Principal Research Scientist.
 * Peter Weill, named #24 on eWeek's "The Top 100 Most Influential People in IT" studies the role, value, and governance of digitization in enterprises.
 * Jeanne W. Ross, Director & Principal Research Scientist, studies how firms develop competitive advantage through the implementation and reuse of digitized platforms.
 * Wanda Orlikowski, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Management, Orlikowski actively investigates the dynamic relationship between information technologies and organizations, with particular emphasis on structures, cultures, work practices, and change.
 * John F. Rockart, Senior Lecturer Emeritus and former director of MIT CISR, investigates managers’ use of computer-based information with a special concentration on the need to design information flow for effective decision making. He also studies the changing role of information technology and the implementation of integrated global systems. His book, Executive Support Systems: The Emergence of Top Management Computer Use (Dow Jones-Irwin, 1988), won the 1989 Nonfiction Computer Press Association Book of the Year Award.
 * Barbara Wixom, Principal Research Scientist, studies big data and data analytics.
 * Martin Mocker, Research Scientist, studies IT strategy, architecture, and related issues.
 * Peter Reynolds, Research Scientist, conducts practice-based research on digital strategy and the management and value of IT.
 * Stephanie Woerner, Research Scientist, focuses on distributed collaboration in organizations and the use of emerging technologies, especially the use of Web 2.0 technologies, to enable and support that collaboration. She emphasizes work, communication, and temporal practices in this work, and uses ethnographic and interview methods.

Now problems here are: Altogether adding this section is no improvement. -- Mdd (talk) 23:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The title and whole lay out suggests a kind of Original Research, which violates No original research
 * 2) Early 2012 only Wanda Orlikowski had an Wikipedia article, but now there are articles on Peter Weill, Jeanne W. Ross, and John F. Rockart which already introduce those people
 * 3) Now I can check Barbara Wixom, Martin Mocker, Peter Reynolds, Stephanie Woerner, but when they are not notable enough for Wikipedia inclusion, they should not be mentioned in this article either.
 * 4) The persons who are affiliated with the CISR are already mentioned in the history section.

How should this article be improved
There is no doubt that this article can use some serious improvement. Further improvement however should be build on carefully selected data preferable from independent third party sources. -- Mdd (talk) 23:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * To begin the new info added has been trimmed (see here) as explained in above. -- Mdd (talk) 23:51, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Comment
My comment on the AfC was "start clean up; most such organizations arent notable ; this one is ". By this I meant, first of all, that most research centers within universities are not appropriate for separate articles, & when taken to AfD are generally redirected or merged to a minimal extent; but this is apparently a major center in a very famous institution that is in fact world-famous in considerable part because of its extraordinarily famous research centers, so this particular one is likely to be at least somewhat notable, and is worth working on. Second, I mean to say that it certainly needed work, and I was starting it. The caveats given above by Mdd are absolutely correct & exactly what I thought also: the external link section was inappropriate, and the key people section was excessive. Listing multiple senior staff, as here, gives a promotional impression, to the extent that if it had not been MIT, I wouldn't have bothered trying to fix it. Unfortunately I did not have time on the 18th to work on it substantially. .

The current version is satisfactory. I am about to go back and delete the AfC as a duplicate of a mainspace article, because there's no need for it now. It might be a good idea to mention and cite some of the most important work from the center, which can undoubtedly be found in the articles on the notable researchers there. For example, perhaps something in particular won an important award.  DGG ( talk ) 01:55, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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