Talk:MOT test

Fees
I have corrected the motorcycle class two description as class two does include class one. There are a few old MOT stations that still only do class one, these were small stations just dealing with scooters and mopeds. Class three is only class three up to 450kg unladen weight, which just permitted Reliants in that class. Over 450kg and they become class four. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/205985/13_030b.pdf sorry I'm not sure how to citate. As you can see there is more to edit using this UK Gov websiteDarmech (talk) 13:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Drive away?
I've just made an edit and seen on the history screen someone disagreeing with what I said. 81.5.159.222 said "If it passes you can obviously drive away, if it fails you can't". I don't believe this is true. I believe you are allowed to drive away from a failed MOT test. --JimmyTheWig 17:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Quite right; you CAN drive away from a failed MoT, hence the box on the bottom of the fail sheet that says "in my opinion this vehicle is dangerous to drive because...." which the tester can fill in if any defect will make the vehicle dangerous between the MoT testing station and the place of fault rectification. TiHead 22:39, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * You can drive to and from an MOT station without a current MOT and Road Fund Licence. But you still would be breaking the law if the vehicle failed as any MOT failures would make the vehicle unroad worthy. And you must have insurance. Darmech (talk) 13:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

"Health MOT"
Confusion around MOT. A confusing thing about MOTs to folks not from UK (like me) is that the department of health refers to "health MOTs." I spent a frustrating half hour trying to figure out what the h... a "health MOT" is, and no-one defined it, not the BBC, not the Guardian. Wikipedia is the first place I looked but found only something on cars, which I couldn't say was the definition I was looking for. I'm a journalism student and had to know for certain what it meant. Obviously the term is beginning to evolve away from its original use, which is kind of interesting. Canuckman 30 Jan 2006


 * A Health MoT is just a slang term; it has no direct relevence to a specific test. Good luck with your Journalism! TiHead 12:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Stands for
The Ministry, in their wisdom, have decided that it shouldn't be called 'Ministry 'of' Transport', as that it grammatically incorrect. It's now called the 'Ministry 'for' Transport'. It follows that the annual vehicle test should now be known as the M.f.T. test! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.94.142 (talk) 20:34, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

"Motor ordinance test"? I think so are there any cites one way or the other? Rich  Farmbrough 14:13 13  March 2006 (UTC).


 * As I recall, the "etymology" of the term started with the signs displayed by garages, which bear the words "M.O.T. approved test station". This was originally intended to be parsed as: "This station has been approved by the Ministry of Transport to carry out the (unnamed) test"; but, as "MOT" became established as the term for the test itself, the sign's popular interpretation changed to "This is a station which has been approved to carry out the MOT test", which (presumably) became official when the test was formally named, following the replacement of the Ministry by the Department. However, I agree that this needs a citation to back it up. Tevildo 22:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * MOT stands for Ministry of Transport. 90.192.7.222 21:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Is it accurate to describe "MOT Test" as an initialism? The T in MOT does not stand for Test, rather it stands for Transport. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.241.28 (talk) 22:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Have removed 'Motor Ordinance Test' from article as cannot find single use of the term outside this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.150.134 (talk) 23:34, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Vehicle inspection internationally
Many jurisdictions other than the UK require inspection of motor vehicles for safety, emissions, or both. Should this article be made international in scope, or is a UK-specific article justified? Thanks. Doctor Whom 17:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I know I'm a bit late in responding but if this artictle were complete and you added all other countries the artictle would be great (large). Darmech (talk) 14:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I would like to add that links to other countries and thier vehicle testing would be a good idea. maybe under one heading with links to individual authorities. just a thought? Darmech (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Class certificate
It was once explained to me that common 'production line' cars typically get given a "class certificate" which allows the standard MOT test to be used, and that other vehicles which do not have such a "class certificate" e.g. such as home built cars are require to take an extended or fuller test. Does anybody have any information on this that could be added to the article, or am I just plain wrong? Guinness 16:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

When you need an MOT
Isn't it 3 years after the data of registration? All vehicles over 3 years old need an MOT? I know this is the case for cars and motorcycles, and it is being discussed whether to increase this to 4 years with new car manufacturing standards being higher than before?

It was discussed and rejected as the failure rate is around 35%. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm081208/wmstext/81208m0004.htm#0812089000026 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.153.18 (talk) 00:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Im to ill an to beloved to loose imma king 2600:1011:B307:F1BD:59B8:BF6C:1606:7926 (talk) 11:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Logo
Does anyone know anything about the origin of the three triangles logo? I remember seeing this as a child in the 1960s, so it is a very longstanding design, unchanged for getting on for half a century. What does it represent? Emeraude (talk) 09:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It represents the three parts of the original test. I can't remember exactly what they are, but something like lights, steering and suspension. 86.170.25.38 (talk) 17:49, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The three original test points in the 1960 test were lights, steering, and brakes. 46.208.3.35 (talk) 12:31, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Change in MOT certificate
Just had mine done, and surprised to receive an blank white piece of paper with (landscape) single-sided laser-printed information, as opposed to the previous (portrait) pro-forma "Green Form". Garage told me the certificate changed in October 2011. Can anyone shed light on this? RodCrosby (talk) 00:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe that it was in response to the theft of numerous thousands of blank certificates. To most of us, it would make no difference, but to the 'cut and shut' boys they are money in the bank. Kiltpin (talk) 13:05, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Funny that - I had an MOT done last month, and the guy mentioned in passing that the new format was mainly because the old style was obsolete - it's all online now, so theoretically there's no need for any paperwork at all. The V5 forms were changed due to theft, but I didn't know that the MOT certificate had also been mass-stolen. Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The paper has to be plain (any colour) no patterns. It is all changing in April. The ministry did it to save money at the cost of the testing stations. The certificates that were mislaid by the ministry were the V5 (registration document/log book) not the VT20 pass certificates. Darmech (talk) 14:48, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Usage
The article currently says: "the Ministry of Transport, [...] is still officially used." If you want to try to use a ministry, I'll wish you the best of luck for that endeavour. Maybe you mean that the words "Ministry of Transport" are still officially used when referring to the Department for Transport? --BjKa (talk) 08:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC) Actually it's "The name [which derives from 'Ministry of Transport'] is still officially used". 109.176.206.96 (talk) 17:06, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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Style of article
While the article has been flagged regarding accuracy (Feb 2018), it also lacks encyclopedic style in many places, with examples of missing conjuctions, clumsy wording and inconsistent punctuation, the last inevitable because of the numerous contributors. I have made some revisions but had to take on trust the content of what I was amending, as I claim no expertise in the precise chronology of changes to the MOT test over the years. I hope someone with relevant knowledge will peruse and, where necessary, further edit those sections if required. Humboles (talk) 09:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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