Talk:MS4 Modeling Environment

Article was proposed for deletion - I removed the proposal for the following reason:

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RobertCoop (talk) 18:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Zeigler is associated with MS4 Systems - so those are not independent sources. Do you have any sources that were written and published independently? - MrOllie (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The book does not qualify as an independent source, however the conference paper is a peer-review publication. I was thinking the 'peer-reviewed' quality of the publication gives it independent status; is this not correct? RobertCoop (talk) 18:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that's not correct. We need independent authorship, or this article is vulnerable to being deleted via the articles for deletion process. - MrOllie (talk) 18:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)