Talk:MSN Groups

Parts of this sound like advertisement ("another cool feature...", etc.). --Jim Henry | Talk 15:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Feel free to change it to make it sound like an article. Sorry if I made a mess of the article. • Thorpe •

re: "Another Cool Feature" That was how MSN referred to the various features, it isn't advertisement at all. . . anyone who has used MSN Groups would recognize that lingo and find it acceptable. Nuttybird2000 (talk) 11:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

MESSAGE TO Shattereddd --  WHY DID YOU DELETE MY ORIGINAL SCREENSHOT OF MSN GROUPS HOMEPAGE AND REPLACE IT WITH ONE THAT IS FULL OF SPONSORED ADS? I PUT A CLEAN SHOT OF MSN'S HOMEPAGE ON HERE, I WENT TO CONSIDERABLE TROUBLE TO GET A SCREENSHOT OF THE PAGE THAT WOULD BE FREE OF ADS AND JUNK AND HERE YOU COME ALONG AND PUT A CRAPPY AD-FILLED SCREENSHOT THERE? HOW DARE YOU? I DEMAND YOU RETURN MY SCREENSHOT TO ITS ORIGINAL PLACE ON THE MSN GROUPS ENTRY TO WIKIPEDIA. THANK YOU NUTTYBIRD2000 NUTTYBIRD2000@HOTMAIL.COM Nuttybird2000 (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Seeking feedback on Google Groups article
Hello. I wrote an article about a related topic, Google Groups. As a new Wikipedia writer, I would appreciate any feedback on my article. Please help me by posting your feedback at the Article Feedback Desk. If you wrote an article and are seeking feedback on it, please post your article at the Article Feedback Desk as well. If you could suggest better ways for me to seek feedback on my article, do leave a note at my talk page. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 12:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Are SmartGroups and GROU.PS notable enough?
--R4ncid 07:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC) I don't think SmartGroups and GROU.PS are notable enough to deserve links.

If you agree with me, please remove the links from the article.

(Where exactly are those links????)
I will not do so myself because I am self-banned from editing Microsoft-related articles. To find out more, please read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Internet_Explorer#Addition_to_Internet_Explorer_article_reverted. my discussion at Internet Explorer's talk page] (especially my concluding response on 24 April). Even though I have lost that dispute, I hope to learn from my mistakes, and would appreciate responses about the dispute on Internet Explorer's talk page.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 08:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Not sure how helpme can help you here, you just have to be patient and wait for someone familiar with the content to take a look.--Commander Keane 08:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I often ask similar questions on article talk pages. I think there should be a version of helpme for article talk pages, for such situations, so I can stick to using helpme for my user talk.
 * Do you agree that neither SmartGroups nor GROU.PS is notable? SmartGroups doesn't even have an article. The GROU.PS article has been listed on AFD. In fact, I just removed the SmartGroups link from the Yahoo! Groups article. I'm not removing it from MSN Groups because, as mentioned earlier, after a dispute, I was self-banned from editing Microsoft-related articles. If you can't help, perhaps you should read the dispute (link above). I hope to learn from the dispute even though I lost it. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 08:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * We use Grou.ps and enjoy it a lot, they claim to have 32000 users on their main page, which makes them quite popular, no? And their Alexa rating is over 100K, which is again, a quite respectable number.. As for SmartGroups, I've first heard about it here, but they have even greater rating at Alexa, over 25K. However, Alexa's credibility is arguable of course. I'd suggest to add them both to See Also section.

2/25/07
Nuttybird2000 07:16, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Today I added a History and a Future section to the MSN Groups page. I added Headers and cleaned the page up, corrected some minor errors and obsolete info, and got rid of the external links to old MSN stuff (such as Chat). Auntie Canuck of Web Design provided me with the History information, as she was an original member of MSN.

To the person who complained about the Popular Groups external links: I don't see the problem. Those are ex-MSN run groups designed to help users create and maintain groups. I have now changed the name of that section to Official MSN Groups.

I also added MSN's CoC & ToU as well as Contact Info to report abuse at MSN.

More to come.

Abuse Email
Whoever changed the abuse email back gave the wrong email abuse@groups.msn.com sends emails to a public group not owned by MSN i have added the correct email again.

Poor Information
Poor information on the future of MSN groups, is this needed? its just an opinion and why add your name after adding content it doesnt benifit the article what so ever? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by R4ncid (talk • contribs) 18:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

== '''ok i delted the future of msn groups because it's true, it's NOT factual.

i sign my own entries to the article as anyone can.'''Nuttybird2000 21:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC) ==

Bullet Points?
This page is just bullet points, should this be more of an article? --R4ncid 18:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I've decided to fix this. However, I kept features with the bullet points. 68.82.245.213 (talk) 05:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Notable Groups
Removed kewl Chat spamming the article. Please make sure a group has reason to be Notable. --R4ncid 07:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

'Group Wars'
I'd like to ask whoever keeps adding that to stop. Your personal opinions are irrevelvant to the article. You're on Wikipedia now, not Groups, and you're detracting from the professional nature of this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.12.17 (talk) 19:54, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have just checked the logs for the MSN Groups article and YOU are the one who is ALSO warring with others in the article. I have accordingly given you ALL two warnings and if you persist with this warring, you will be BANNED by an Admin! --Visa2007 08:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I've done is deleted the bit about the Groups war. I received no prior warning about editing the page, and I don't believe I need one, since I was editing a POV bullet that wasn't even sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.12.17 (talk) 01:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * MY APOLOGIES! When I checked the history, etc earlier I could have sworn that it showed that you were also spamming/vandalizing, however when I just checked again, this is NOT the case and I sincerely apologise for any upset, etc caused to you. As you stated, you were only reverting the vandalism from the others. Time for an eye test for me I think! I have also just removed the warning from your Talk Page. SORRY! --Visa2007 05:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Hah, thank you. I'm sorry for any inconvenience I might've caused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.12.17 (talk) 02:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Buggy
I am having a lot of difficulty using these groups. First of all, I can't get the MSN Groups homepage to even load. Secondly, when sending a message to a group, I receive an "Hmmm, We Can't Find that Page..." error. Thirdly, about every third page I navigate to is missing its stylesheet, so all I see is the stripped-down HTML minus backgrounds, images, special fonts, etc. What a load of crap! SharkD (talk) 02:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

World Groups
There's a link to World Groups on this page but it redirect us to MSN Groups. Duh! 70.81.167.56 (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

MSN - NEVER Forgiven
I for one will *NEVER* forgive MSN for cutting MSN-groups in such a callous and uncaring fashion. It has been a few years now but I'm still incensed by this completely unfeeling act - MSN appeared to give not a fig about these groups and the people who use them - these people were just ditched like a soiled undergarment! Surely MSN could have sold the whole bundle (as is) to some other unit. Why did they develop a new product that they knew was going to be completely incompatible with their currently running MSN-groups??? It was premeditated and they didn’t care. I guess they thought people would just re-sign up to the new version of their groups. I think they miscalculated badly. I think all their MSN-groups users simply moved to Facebook, I never looked back!! If the new groups was intended to compete with Facebook – nice own goal!! I'd never use another MSN social media site ever again, given the way they just dumped all their users last time. I’d be interested to know the figures on how many users MSN had (on MSN-groups) before it closed, and how many users they now have on the new version of MSN-groups (or whatever it is called now, Live???) and how many still use the migration site (multiply??)  - 118.127.16.226 (talk) 08:25, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Reply to MSN-NEVER FORGIVEN! by RaysKid aka nuttybird2000 January 3, 2019

Years later, finally a reply to this, now it's still a lot of years since MSN GROUP closed, and I haven't visited this page in a very very long time. Back then, my user name here at Wikipedia was nuttybird2000 and I am responsible for some of the editing to the MSN GROUPS wiki page back then, and also, like so many others, had been an MSN GROUP member and manager from it's inception till it's closure!! I was LIVID when we were closed down the way we were!! Of course we didn't know it then, but as u imply, I also think it was done as a way to make room for the up and coming Facebook. At the time, there was My Space, but it didn't do so well. Of course once MSN closed Groups, there really wasn't anywhere else for people to go but to Facebook!? Was there? There has STILL NEVER BEEN a better format than MSNs was. We could create our own pages, we had almost complete control over our groups, could customize our pages - using Groups fun and creative and very social. Now everything is reduced to one boring format which Facebook totally manages, leaving page 'owners' no freedom of expression at all. I HATE FACEBOOK!! I only use it because it's the only format available for me to keep in touch with my long distance family members. The message format sucks because u can't keep track of message threads easily, messages disappear quickly, never to be seen again - and u can't help but get lost in the maze, to keep a group some w just joined members able to post. Well I could go on and on.. what I can't figure out is why no other entity has thought to recreate MSNs format so users could once again become involved in the creation and maintaining of their own groups, or blogs, or whatever. Even sites like wordpress are nothing like good old Groups were. It's dad. And I think Facebook must have bought MSN out so to get rid of groups. Remember they let us move all our stuff too MULTIPLY so we could supposedly maintain and store our stuff and all. But multiply no longer exists in that format and I certainly can't find all stuff I moved over there in a botched attempt to save my MSN GROUP photos (thousands, many of which were entrusted to my care by members of my reunion group) and other data, files, etc. Dam shame!

O! In reply to the question of approximately how many members MSN GROUP had at its peak (which it was in FULL PEAK right up to the date of closing) - idk how many except to say it operated WORLD WIDE, with probably hundred of thousands, if not millions, of users/members!

'RaysKid' - once known as  nuttybird2000 @ MSN GROUPS and Wikipedia

RaysKid (talk) 01:13, 4 January 2019 (UTC)