Talk:MTR/Archive 4

BVE Trainsim
It looks like this isn't actually initiated by MTR itself, and was just created by some train enthusiasts. I propose we remove it. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Surely. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 06:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed. - Mailer Diablo (talk) 08:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

MTR-KCR merge
I've started a discussion on the MTR-KCR merge at WPHK (so we can have one consolidated discussion about it instead of having the same discussion across the few relevant articles). . Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

After the merger on 2 Dec, should we merge KCR with MTR?, but, if we do, it's a loss of history. Another important topic is to improve Lok Ma Chau (KCR) since it is important and should attract more attention. Toyotaboy95-Specialist in Wikipedia (talk) 05:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mind bringing this up at the WPHK talk page so we have a consolidated discussion? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 07:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Safety on The MTR
do you think MTR deserves an article on safety (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_on_the_Mass_Rapid_Transit) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyotaboy95 (talk • contribs) 05:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Criticism of MTR
Read this http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=12&art_id=61468&sid=17571556&con_type=1 (THE STANDARD)--should we add it????

Toyotaboy95-Specialist in Wikipedia (talk) 01:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The so-called "early retirement package" is quite common among Hong Kong enterprises and government departments, so I doubt the need of such information. But I am not against it and I think if someone is gonna include this cite, it worth to open a new section about MTR staff to include their uniform style as well in order to stuff the new section. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 02:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Route Table of Light Rail
Should we make a table JUST for Light Rail? It doesn't quite seem to fit in the current "MTR Line" one. But it's going to need a lot of effort.

Toyotaboy95-Specialist in Wikipedia (talk) 11:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * My opinion is that both Airport Express and Light Rail should be separated from the network table, as they have different fare system and network system from the 9 lines. – Peter CX &amp;Talk 14:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Standard gauge or narrow gauge?
There's an anon insist "correcting" the MTR gauge width standard in ZH version. After 3RR with the resultant full-protection, he finally gives his word in the talk page. Unsurprizingly, no response. As I've witnessed several times the editwar happens again after protected article unprotected. We need some expert to do the judge and prove whether it is standard gauge or narrow gauge. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 09:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the UrbanRail.Net article on Hong Kong railways, the MTR runs on 1432 mm

(≈ 4'83/8") gauge, which is 3 mm (≈ 1/8") narrower than standard gauge. I'd call it standard gauge, since I think a few mm of leeway is built into any definition (e.g., a 995 mm railway would probably still be considered meter-gauge). If you want, I suppose you could call it a medium gauge. 66.234.222.96 (talk) 06:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Is there a reference for why they picked near standard gauge - to make sure main line trains never can use it? I believe the TTC in Canada did this on some of their tram / trolley lines. Wongm (talk) 06:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I tend to think it's because of the rolling stock requirement. Hong Kong Tramways uses narrow gauge, but of course it is a much older railway. --Kvasir (talk) 06:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

1991 MTR Disruptions
I saw from a TV show on Asia Television about a malfunction in 1991 that took almost the entire MTR network offline, forcing passengers to take other forms of transportation. Can we add that in there after some research? Arbiteroftruth (talk) 06:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Linky? - Mailer Diablo 16:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Oyster Card Section
I was noticing a problem with one of the references within the last sentence of the second paragraph where it states on other cities that use smart card systems. It states Chicago uses the EasyCard when it uses the Chicago Card smart card. The EasyCard is the system used in Taipei. I'm new to editing so am still unfamiliar how to correct the links (either replacing Chicago for Taipei or EasyCard for Chicago Card) so until I can figure things out if someone can assist with the editing of the links it would be greatly appreciated.

Chicago Card http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Card

EasyCard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyCard

(Spanishyoshi (talk) 18:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC))


 * Fixed! Thank you for noticing and pointing it out! -Herenthere (Talk) 23:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Ownership
Isn't the MTR not 100% government owned? I don't know the exact percentage of the public ownership vs private (after the merger), but I propose changing the infobox section on its ownership. 69.228.199.120 (talk) 00:31, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It is not 100% gov't owned, see here: MTR Corporation; I believe the HKSAR owns about half of MTR Corp now. -Herenthere (Talk) 18:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Changes to Kwun Tong line
The article says:


 * Since the opening in 1982, the Tsuen Wan Line is the only line whose alignment has virtually remained the same for the past 23 years. For example, the Kwun Tong Line's alignment has changed twice since its opening — the taking over of Tsuen Wan Line from Mong Kok to Central, and the taking over of Eastern Harbour Crossing section by the Tseung Kwan O Line.

That cannot be quite right. When I first visited Hong Kong in the late 1980s there was no Eastern Harbour Crossing, but the Tsuen Wan Line was as it is now. The Kwun Tong line ran from Mong Kok to Kwun Tong. Thus there must have been at least three changes to the route of the Kwun Tong line:


 * When the Tsuen Wan line took over the section from Mong Kok to Central
 * When the Kwun Tong line was extended through the new Eastern Harbour Crossing
 * When the Tseung Kwan O line took over the Eastern Harbour Crossing

There may have been others. I seem to remember that after the Eastern Harbour Crossing opened, the Kwun Tong line's terminus was Quarry Bay, not North Point. -- Starbois (talk) 19:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Freight and inter-city passenger traffic
What happened to the KCRC's freight and inter-city passenger traffic?. The section on the merger would suggest that the MTR took this over, but I can find no reference to it in this article or its line-specific daughter articles.

The rolling stock summaries make no reference to freight locomotives or longer distance passenger stock. I seem to remember that the KCRC used to own some Swiss-built double-deck inter-city trains, but again there is no reference to these. Has that traffic all gone, is it all operated by railway companies from the north, or is it just missing from this family of articles?. -- Starbois (talk) 19:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not an expert on this topic, but I'm guessing all the same KCRC services still run under MTR, as I'm pretty sure the inter-city trains you mention are the Ktt trains used on the Hong Kong to Guangdong Through Train (MTR) service. I don't know about freight trains. I agree that this info should be incorporated into the article.Huangcjz (talk) 21:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

New article
Should we split the MTR rolling stock section into a new article? It would be easier to organise and edit that way, and would make the MTR parent article much clearer to read. Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions) 01:50, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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Stuxnetlike computer bug chaos
October 2018 saw huge disruptions due to Stuxnetlike computer bug hitting the MTR systems, but no official acknowledgement of whether it was foreign meddling or otherwise. The malicious Israeli virus Stuxnet, although purportedly designed to target Siemens bus controllers (SCADA for centifuges), it has spread far beyond. They may simply refer to it as a "bug" rather than make any official statement about foreign meddling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.3.46.41 (talk) 09:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Please provide a citation to a reliable source. Otherwise it appears to be WP:OR. Thank you, Citobun (talk) 09:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Section "The First railroad"
As explained on IP's user page already, I am removing the section on "The First railroad" because the history of the KCR is already covered in the article for Kowloon–Canton Railway. MTR originated in the 1960s and 1970s. Citobun (talk) 10:15, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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The IPs are probably referring to this. Jc86035 (talk) 13:40, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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