Talk:MV ACX Crystal

"ACX"
Is "ACX" the name of a shipping line? I notice there's an ACX Diamond and ACX Pearl -- 65.94.169.56 (talk) 05:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Asia Container eXpress  also has ACX Lily  and ACX Cosmos
 * -- 65.94.169.56 (talk) 13:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Location
I'm concerned that the location of the collision is given as "Shizuoka, Japan" when the Japan Times (presumably familiar with Japanese geography) reported, per footnote 8, "... U.S. Navy destroyer and cargo vessel collide off Kanagawa." I claim no expertise in all this; I just noticed the possible discrepancy. ☺ Dick Kimball (talk) 08:30,
 * It is 34.53333°N, 139.06667°W on the map in the BBC citation [9]. Does that help? - Bri (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Tonnage
News media continue to draw comparisons between Crystal and Fitzgerald. The culprits include: Television reports make the same error.
 * Brad Lendon of CNN;
 * The Guardian; and
 * BBC the BBC

If one wishes to compare displacement with tonnage, the proper comparison may be with deadweight tonnage. But it may be that a container ship such as Crystal rarely approaches its rated deadweight, and there likely will be no source identifying its deadweight at the time of the collision, at least until the investigations are complete. Kablammo (talk) 15:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Loaded or full displacement is effectively the total mass of the vessel operationally, but cannot be compared to the merchant ship's deadweight - either actual or maximum (which is the figure in databases). Deadweight excludes the mass of the ship itself.  Adding actual deadweight to "light displacement" would, I think, produce the right comparitor - but neither of these are as yet found in any online sources, including NKK class records. Davidships (talk) 11:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you . You are right, of course. I must have had in mind difference between gross and net, and somehow conflated that here.
 * It seems that even our friends with the Navy makes the same error mentioned above: See 7 US sailors missing after catastrophic collision from the Navy Times, which states that Crystal "a ship that displaces nearly 40,000 tons".
 * Kablammo (talk) 14:46, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Navy Times is private enterprise, not a publication of the U.S. Navy. Bri (talk) 21:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup. And their reporter is ex-USN.  Kablammo (talk) 01:58, 24 June 2017 (UTC)