Talk:MYOB (company)

This is an advertisement
I believe this is blatant advertising and should be deleted. Comments please. Moriori 05:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. The information contained seems to be factual. There are no claims that MYOB is better than any other business software. There are also no promotions or special offers listed. What exactly do you think the article is advertising apart from the facts? 155.143.183.212 09:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I am inclined to agree. I got this far: "MYOB has helped automate the accounting needs for over 1.000,000 business owners and over 10,000 accounting practices in Australia and New Zealand." Surely there is a way to write this without it seeming like an ad. 125.254.11.160 (talk) 02:24, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Problems
I don't think that this is an advertisement. But I believe that the continual removal of the balancing point of view that there are problems with the software package constitutes a breach of Wikipedia regulation. If it's written as opinion then change the wording not the content.

Please stop deleting the "Problems with MYOB" section

--William Wang 05:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Removal of "Problems with MYOB"
If it's written in an opinionated way then change the way it's written. Don't delete it. Wikipedia is about balance, just because your view on MYOB differs from others does not give you the right to completely remove sections.

Also create an account instead of using different IP addresses and making single entries. If you work for MYOB disclose it.

--William Wang 04:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

This section is wrong. Users are not aware with MYOB what is a debit, so there is no reason for a user to post to an asset account rather than a expense, based on a user getting confused about debits and credits. The rest is not a criticism of MYOB anyway, just users that are over confident, or untrained, use MYOB, as they use any other entry level bookkeeping system. MYOB is not a tax program - unless you are talking about the GST system. So the problems with MYOB seem to be related (In Australia) to its popularity, so many people use it, people who should not try to do their accounts use it. (Dare I say like some computer users and Windows). However I can I will need to proceed with caution - there are problems with MYOB - just that these are not them.Frimbia 11:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Re my edit
My rewriting of this article this morning has presented it in a crisper, more encyclopedic manner, without removing pertinent text. User:203.34.100.2 I suspect you reverted simply because of previous to-ing and fro-ings here, without actually reading the content. Two bits of info I excised were total silliness, under the sub-heading (mentioned by William Wang above) "Reported problems with MYOB", namely How can it be a MYOB problem? That's totally meaningless. Some people can't use Microsoft Word properly. Is that Word's fault/problem? Of course not. What? Because it is more easily understood, some accountants have problems communicating with clients! Good grief.
 * "Non-accountants using it with little or no accounting knowledge. This is despite 10,000 Accounting firms using MYOBs Accounting Practice software worldwide and recommending to that their clients use MYOBs Accounting software."
 * "In recent years, the terminology in the software has become simpler to the layperson to understand. Some accountants with limited experience with MYOB experience problems communicating with clients because of this."

I got rid of them both.Moriori 00:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * My apologies Moriori. I didn't notice your edits to the 'Reported Problems' section. The text that I intended to revert was in the first section of this article(last two paragraphs regarding MYOBs products & services and the number of customers they have). MYOB Exonet was classed as 'Entry Level software'!! I wholedheartedly agree with your above two edits and thankyou for taking the time to improve that section.  However I still disagree with that whole section as it is obviously based on a jilted accountants opinion of MYOBs Accounting software and not based on any factual evidence.  If the 'Reported Problems' section was to outline a defect in the software that causes incorrect BAS reporting for example, I would have no issues with it. To rant about a problem that is not related to the software in any way shape or form does not conform with the 5 pillars of Wikipedia.
 * And I agree with that. However, your last revert took the article to a version that was not really well written so I have again reverted. I (subsequently) see you have removed reference to Network Edition and that's fine by me because I know nothing about optimisation, but I believe the article is now more encyclopedic, and that's why we are here. Moriori 06:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep the Problems Section
I agree with Willian at al about keeping the section "Opinions ...". I teach MYOB to people who have not studied accounting - and the article as written is very timely. MYOB users really need to understand the basic financial construction of business - basic accounting concepts. The article here is not saying the software is defective in some way - rather its saying to use it effectively the user needs some knowledge of accounting basics - really the 'economics' of business. The comment "some accountants frind it necessary to redo any accounting work ... because users ... do not understand the ... accounting concept" is correct - I know of instances of that happening on an on-going basis at added cost to the user. The emphasis in the article is on the word "understand" (the concepts) - you do not need formal accounting qualifications to be effective and accurate with MYOB but you must know what basic accounting principles are employed by MYOB and what they do / how they work. Ahorangi 02:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Data Structure
I think the information about "The database is separate from the DBMS and easy to backup and restore using a father and son method." is rather irrelevant in this article. The DBMS separation is a feature of c-tree, and common amongst all major DBMS products. A father and son backup is not enforced, recommended or even hinted by MYOB (although there is no doubt it is a good way to go!). I think of more relevance is the fact that MYOB provides backup and restore functionality within the software, which I have edited. Any thoughts? 1manfern (talk) 23:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

MYOB Accountants Office
www.myob.com.au
 * MYOB Accountants Office product by Doug Bower

Doug talked about his work within the MYOB Account division. The product is used by thousands of accountants across Australia and NZ. The MYOB Accountants Office product: Started in 2.6 (being programmed by accountants) Then moved to VFP3.0 Then 5, 6, 8 Not moving to 9.0 yet, but waiting for the Vista side of things in Sedna to be confirmed. The application uses a main exe that calls .app files of which there 374 at the moment. Very interesting to see the structure of the program and the tables, as they are all under separate directories, and they keep backup .app files for each tax year (for backwards tracing if required). We went through the Client app and then the report generator that they use. They developed their own reporting preview system which is an exposed COM object. It supports built in use of barcodes in reports etc. Many of the forms are data driven because a lot of the tax details changes from time to time and it is easier to add a new record rather than changing a form. The product uses some of the Outlook bar controls from dbi Tech.

Posted on July 29, 2006 16:52 by Craig Bailey 114.76.90.106 (talk) 07:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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MYOB decision to cease client assistance
MYOB has recently changed there approach to customer assistance. The way forward for them is to forward customers needing assistance links to community forums and links to self help pages. 1.145.130.0 (talk) 08:42, 18 June 2023 (UTC)