Talk:Ma al-'Aynayn

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Pamphlet promarocain. No neutral.--88.16.143.95 (talk) 20:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC) How can to be proclaimed sultan in 1912 -how seems in the context- if is death in 1910?--88.16.143.95 (talk) 20:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Corrected --Tachfin (talk) 02:07, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Categories
User:Koavf, regarding this diff. You removed History of Morocco cat, any incoherent vague rationale for that?

Sahrawi is an anachronism for a person that lived in the 19th century. And even if we concede to describe him as such, it is inappropriate since the Current use of the term refers to a nationality or a modern notion of people-hood (related to SADR but not limited to) that didn't exist back.

Born in south-eastern present-day Mauritania or Mali, lived in Tindouf (present day Algeria) for most of his life and was associated with Morocco (state and region) where he lived and died. We could as well add Algerian, Moroccan, Malian and Mauritanian cats. Which would be unfair, pertaining mainly to anachronism.

I strongly suggest you stop adding, willfully and probably knowingly, falsehood to an Encyclopedia for modern geopolitical considerations, especially considering your troubled history here and the pages-long offenses that you were guilty of re this subject. Just a few months back you were topic banned.

P.S: The category you're trying to add is totally useless (even if we concede to your POV). All Sahrawis are Muslims. --Tachfin (talk) 00:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

June 2021
Copied from User_talk:Marmandie (concerning this edit)

It's a fact, western sahara is ruled over 80% by Moroccohttps://studentbriefs.law.gwu.edu/ilpb/2021/03/01/why-moroccan-sovereignty-over-western-sahara-should-be-recognized/, stop censorship
 * Are you honestly suggesting that Spanish Sahara was ruled by Morocco? M.Bitton (talk) 13:39, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Are you honestly think that Spain still colonizes the Sahara nowaday?
 * What part of "In 1898" is difficult to understand? M.Bitton (talk) 13:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

It says "(present-day Western Sahara)."
 * It's clearly talking about Spanish Sahara. "Present-day Western Sahara" is not necessary and is just there to help the reader who's not familiar with the subject. M.Bitton (talk) 13:51, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes it was but Nowadays western sahara is ruled by Morocco over 80% and polisario by 20%, it's an important fact for reader wh'os not familiar with the subject.
 * Even if we somehow agree to add that sentence and inject modern politics into an article about a historical figure, we'll have to change it since Western Sahara is not "ruled" by Morocco, it's "occupied" by it (that's how it's described in the primary article and tons of reliable sources, including the UN, support that statement). Is that what you want? As for what the reader may or may not be interested in, we're linking to the article and letting them decide, what we don't do is cherry pick what we think is important. M.Bitton (talk) 15:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Stop undoing my changes which are however sourced. You are doing the wiki community a disservice with your ideology. I will be forced to report it to the moderators

--Marmandie (talk) 18:46, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You ignored my comments (here and on your talk page) since the 25th of June. M.Bitton (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I always bring serious references when I participate in the modifications, you don't, you participate in an editing war and do not bring any convincing elementsMarmandie (talk) 19:45, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No you don't, and worse still, once you've added your POV to an article, you simply ignore the talk page (until your edit is reverted). In any case, you need to seek consensus for your change. M.Bitton (talk) 19:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Etymology
ماء العينين is literally "water of two eyes/springs", but this is probably some sort of an idiom, isn't it? 89.64.81.234 (talk) 20:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)