Talk:Mabel Normand

Birthdate
Birthdate -- 1892 or 1895? Her grave says 1895. Is that Hollywood age vanity or what? 198.53.208.74 (talk) 22:58, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

According to a posting on IMDb.com on Mabel Normand's discussion page, a person posted that the New York censuses for 1900 and 1910 show her being born in 1893 and that she had 1897 on her passport. I thought the census records had the age of children at the time of the census and not their year of birth, based on the few records I have seen. Does anyone know for certain? Thanks.Jtyroler (talk) 11:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Astrological sources says November 10 1897, e.g. AstroDataBank. The official IMDB page says November 10, 1895.

The 1892 birth year is footnoted to a source that says 1893.2A02:AA1:1612:5ECF:BD64:F37C:61E6:D2F9 (talk) 15:25, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Name?
There's two different names here... one says her name was Amabel Normand, and the other says Mabel Normand. Does anyone know for sure? Franzfergidon (talk) 02:27, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is "Tillie's Punctured Romance" no longer listed on the filmography? I see from the archived Talk pages that it was on the list prior to the boxes being added. I only noticed because it was this film that prompted me to look up this article. Thanks. Rw34655 (talk) 08:21, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Switch out the opening picture?
Everyone, please let me know what you think of this suggestion. I'd like to switch out the opening photo in the article for the more appealing one at right. The current one looks comparatively plain and dowdy, downright matronly, doesn't capture her luminous beauty at all, and I think it would give the article a more intriguing ambiance (to employ a euphemistic phrase) to use this radiantly gorgeous one instead, it will surely lead to more casual readers becoming suitably intrigued by the amazing subject matter and do more to stimulate interest in her astonishing and pioneering career. Please let me know what you think. Cinerama Comment (talk) 12:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Courtland S. Dines
'In 1924, Normand's chauffeur Joe Kelly shot and wounded millionaire oil broker and amateur golfer Courtland S. Dines with her pistol. At the time of his death, Dines was romantically involved with Normand's friend (and frequent Chaplin co-star) Edna Purviance.'


 * Does this mean that Dines had been mortally wounded in the shooting? We don't know how soon afterwards he died. Valetude (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Pie throwing
The article states that Normand was the first to receive a pie in the face (from having been thrown). But another source claims that she was the first to throw a pie (rather than receiving it). The source is "King of Comedy" by Mack Sennett and Cameron Shipp, p. 137. Fultie771 (talk) 13:43, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

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"Hello Mabel" Normand?
In the Cultural References section, someone was noted the Bonzo Dog Band song , "Hello Mabel" as a reference to Mabel Normand. As a long time follower of the band, and being quite familiar with the song , I have to ask if anybody can supply a reference point? The song is meant to sound like a "roaring 20's" style piece, but , the lyrics do not mention "Normand" nor do they seem to reference her in any specific way. I can't say I've ever read an interview with the songs' writer, Neil Innes , specifying the connection either. ( Obviously, I can't have read or heard ALL interviews in ALL medias , thus the reason a point of verification would be nice. ). 75.104.162.211 (talk) 07:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

All I can think of off the top of my head to add is that Hello Mabel was the name of one of her shorts. Maybe someone connected with the band somehow ran across the title and liked the sound of it, perhaps even realizing that Normand was a gigantic queen of comedic films for a while during the Roaring 20s. Figure Out What&#39;s Right (talk) 16:56, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

My great aunt Mabel Normand
This biography of my family member has a number of inaccuracies concerning her career personal life and our family lineage and many of the citations are themselves hearsay. I would like to make the corrections in order that the information is correct and factual..also I would like to add two other source/references to the list for further reference. Also, I think you ought to know that there are two living family members surviving and that the Normand family estate oversees the name and likeness of Mabel Normand.

Thank you

Stephen Normand (The Reverend) Great Nephew of Mabel Normand Archivist of the Mabel Normand Family Estate. Mack&#38;Mabel18 (talk) 05:33, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Earlier Film List with Cast
Found a full film list of Normand's films with casts in an earlier iteration of this site. For whomever might find it as concise and conveniently useful as I do, I'll present a copy of it here: PARTIAL FILMOGRAPHY: Figure Out What&#39;s Right (talk) 16:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Indiscretions of Betty (1910)
 * Her Awakening (1911; directed by D. W. Griffith)
 * Why He Gave Up (1911)
 * The Water Nymph (1912) with Mack Sennett
 * Mabel's Lovers (1912) with Fred Mace and Ford Sterling
 * At Coney Island (1912) with Mack Sennett, Fred Mace, and Ford Sterling
 * The Flirting Husband (1912) with Ford Sterling
 * Mabel's Adventures (1912)
 * The Bangville Police (1913) with the Keystone Cops
 * A Noise from the Deep (1913; Normand throws the first pie thrown on film) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * A Little Hero (1913) with Harold Lloyd
 * Mabel's Awful Mistakes (1913) with Mack Sennett, Ford Sterling, and Edgar Kennedy
 * Passions, He Had Three (1913) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * For the Love of Mabel (1913) with Roscoe Arbuckle and Ford Sterling
 * Mabel's New Hero (1913) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Mabel's Dramatic Career (1913) with Mack Sennett and Ford Sterling
 * In the Clutches of the Gang (1914) with Roscoe Arbuckle and the Keystone Cops
 * Mack at It Again (1914) with Mack Sennett
 * Mabel's Stormy Love Affair (1914)
 * Mabel's Strange Predicament (1914) with Charles Chaplin (first film shot with Chaplin as the Tramp, although the second released)
 * A Film Johnnie (1914) with Charles Chaplin and Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Mabel at the Wheel (1914; co-directed by Mabel Normand and Mack Sennett) with Charles Chaplin
 * Caught in a Cabaret (1914; written and directed by Mabel Normand) with Charles Chaplin
 * Mabel's Nerve (1914) with Mack Swain
 * The Fatal Mallet (1914) with Charles Chaplin
 * Her Friend the Bandit (1914; co-directed by Mabel Normand and Charles Chaplin) with Charles Chaplin
 * Mabel's Busy Day (1914; written and directed by Mabel Normand) with Charles Chaplin
 * Mabel's Married Life (1914; co-written by Charles Chaplin and Mabel Normand) with Charles Chaplin
 * Mabel's New Job (1914; co-directed by Mabel Normand and George Nichols) with Chester Conklin, Charley Chase, and Al St. John
 * The Sky Pirate (1914) with Roscoe Arbuckle and Al St. John
 * The Masquerader (1914) with Charles Chaplin and Roscoe Arbuckle (Normand was uncredited)
 * Mabel's Latest Prank (1914; co-directed by Mabel Normand and Mack Sennett) with Mack Sennett
 * Hello, Mabel (1914; directed by Mabel Normand) with Charley Chase, Chester Conklin, and Al St. John
 * Gentlemen of Nerve (1914) with Charles Chaplin
 * His Trysting Place (1914) with Charles Chaplin
 * Tillie's Punctured Romance (1914) with Marie Dressler and Charles Chaplin
 * Shotguns That Kick (1914) with Roscoe Arbuckle and Al St. John
 * Mabel and Fatty's Wash Day (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Mabel and Fatty's Simple Life (1915; AKA "Fatty and Mabel's Simple Life") with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Mabel and Fatty's Married Life (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Getting Acquainted (1914) with Charles Chaplin
 * That Little Band of Gold (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle and Ford Sterling
 * Wished on Mabel (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Mabel and Fatty Viewing the World's Fair at San Francisco (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle
 * Mabel's Wilful Way (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle, Al St. John, and Edgar Kennedy
 * Mabel Lost and Won (1915) with Owen Moore
 * The Little Teacher (1915) with Roscoe Arbuckle, Mack Sennett, and Owen Moore
 * He Did and He Didn't (1916) with Roscoe Arbuckle and Al St. John
 * Fatty and Mabel Adrift (1916) with Roscoe Arbuckle and Al St. John
 * The Venus Model (1918)
 * Mickey (1918)
 * A Perfect 36 (1918)
 * Jinx (1919)
 * Molly O (1921)
 * Head Over Heels (1922)
 * Oh, Mabel Behave (1922)
 * Suzanna (1923)
 * Raggedy Rose (1926)
 * The Nickel-Hopper (1926)
 * Should Men Walk Home? (1927)
 * One Hour Married (1927)