Talk:Mac (computer)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 17:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Since nobody has started to review this article, I am going to go ahead and start the reviewing process. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 17:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Seems to pass the quick-fail test. It's a very well-organized article and I don't see any obvious errors. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 17:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I have done the full review on it and I believe that it meets the Good article criteria. It is well-organized, describes most of the important parts of the history, shows a good summary of their current product line, provides a nice timeline, is fully cited, and has good images to complement it. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 22:45, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Really? There are several uncited sections still, and I even saw a cn tag. I find it hard to believe that you skipped those, so please address these issues promptly, as you already passed it. Examples:

Because Mac OS X is a UNIX like system, borrowing heavily from FreeBSD, many applications written for Linux or BSD run on Mac OS X, often using X11. Apple's less-common operating system means that a much smaller range of third-party software is available, but many popular applications such as Microsoft Office and Firefox are cross-platform  and run natively. (under "Software"; unsourced)

Originally, the hardware architecture was so closely tied to the Mac OS operating system that it was impossible to boot an alternative operating system. The most common workaround, used even by Apple for A/UX, was to boot into Mac OS and then to hand over control to a program that took over the system and acted as a boot loader. This technique was no longer necessary with the introduction of Open Firmware-based PCI Macs, though it was formerly used for convenience on many Old World ROM systems due to bugs in the firmware implementation.[citation needed] Now, Mac hardware boots directly from Open Firmware or EFI, and Macs are no longer limited to running just the Mac OS X. (under "Software"; unsourced; has tag)

The original Macintosh was the first successful personal computer to use a graphical user interface devoid of a command line. It used a desktop metaphor, depicting real-world objects like documents and a trashcan as icons onscreen. The System software introduced in 1984 with the first Macintosh and renamed Mac OS in 1997, continued to evolve until version 9.2.2. In 2001, Apple introduced Mac OS X, based on Darwin and NEXTSTEP; its new features included the Dock and the Aqua user interface. During the transition, Apple included an emulator known as Classic allowing users to run Mac OS 9 applications under Mac OS X, version 10.4 and earlier on PowerPC machines. The most recent version is Mac OS X v10.6 "Snow Leopard." In addition to Snow Leopard, all new Macs are bundled with assorted Apple-produced applications, including iLife, the Safari web browser and the iTunes media player. (under "Software"; unsourced)

It is available only in Bluetooth, and the Mighty Mouse (re-branded as "Apple Mouse") is available with a cord. (under "Hardware"; unsourced)

Apple directly sub-contracts hardware production to Asian original equipment manufacturers such as Asus, maintaining a high degree of control over the end product. By contrast, most other companies (including Microsoft) create software that can be run on hardware produced by a variety of third-parties, like Dell, HP/Compaq, and Lenovo. Consequently, the Macintosh buyer has comparably fewer options. (under "Hardware"; unsourced)

Multi-touch gestures from the iPhone's interface have been applied to the Mac line in the form of touch pads on notebooks and the Magic Mouse for desktops. (under "2006 onward: Intel era"; unsourced)

These models competed against the Macintosh clones, hardware manufactured by third-parties that ran Apple's System 7. This succeeded in increasing the Macintosh's market share somewhat and provided cheaper hardware for consumers, but hurt Apple financially. (under "1990 to 1998: Growth and decline"; unsourced)

The second-generation of PowerBooks, the 500 series, introduced the trackpad in 1994. (under "1990 to 1998: Growth and decline"; unsourced)

The SE also updated Jerry Manock and Terry Oyama's original design and shared the Macintosh II's Snow White design language, as well as the new Apple Desktop Bus (ADB) mouse and keyboard that had first appeared on the Apple IIGS some months earlier. (under "1985 to 1989: Desktop publishing era"; unsourced)

In September 1986 Apple introduced the Macintosh Programmer's Workshop, or MPW that allowed software developers to create software for Macintosh on Macintosh, rather than cross-developing from a Lisa. In August 1987 Apple unveiled HyperCard, and introduced MultiFinder, which added cooperative multitasking to the Macintosh. In the Fall Apple bundled both with every Macintosh. (under "1985 to 1989: Desktop publishing era"; unsourced; needs comma after "1986")

Later, applications such as Macromedia FreeHand, QuarkXPress, Adobe Photoshop, and Adobe Illustrator strengthened the Mac’s position as a graphics computer and helped to expand the emerging desktop publishing market. (under "1985 to 1989: Desktop publishing era"; unsourced)

I suggest that you undo your passing of this GAN if you do not wish to, or are unable to, address these issues. Although GA reviews are less strict than FA nominations, this much unreferenced material is ridiculous. I also suspect that none or few of the problems in the last FAR have been addressed.

Remember, just because it looks good, doesn't mean everything is GA-ready.  — fetch ·  comms   22:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * A fair amount of the earlier points in the FAR were addressed, but one of the main concerns, lack of focus - a shared GA/FA criteria - wasn't. I don't have an opinion on the GA nom itself however, just making a comment. Ryan Norton 23:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I realize the mistakes in the article, and I have set up a community reassessment to get it fixed. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 23:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)