Talk:Macbeth (1971 film)

Concerns about "Bloodiest"
"Meanwhile, he had set his mind on adapting perhaps the bloodiest work in English literature, Shakespeare's Macbeth..."

Compared to, say, Marlowe's Barabas, Macbeth certainly falls short. I can see "one of the bloodiest..."

But put that aside; I strongly agree with one of the other posters. A very nice article indeed!

Yankoz   —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.57.20.50 (talk) 01:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

Fleance! Where did he "fly" to?
Why does Polanski not let the audience know what happened to the character Fleance in the end? Of course, Malcolm was the legitimate heir to the throne in the end, but wasn't Fleance supposed to be king, according to the witches? Le Anh-Huy 06:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I believe Fleance was next in line for the throne. I'd flee too.DocEss 17:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

---The witches' prophecy doesn't refer to Fleance himself becoming king, but rather his (supposed) distant descendant Robert II, grandson of Robert I the Bruce by Robert's daughter Marjorie, who married Walter the Steward, whose family was traced back to Banquo. Shakespeare's Fleance is, though, Banquo's only child, and thus if he is killed, the whole thing will fall apart.

It was a tribute to James I. James believed he decended from the real Banquo, so thats why Shakespeare put it in. Fleance wasn't supposed to be next in line to the throne (Malcolm was, because Duncan named him his heir before his death, thus the returning of the 'real' monarch, instead of Macbeth), but it was Banquo's subsequent children that would lead to James I. Disinclination 17:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Needs mention of the Third Ear Band soundtrack (which includes the ballad "Fleance") which was released on LP. 76.27.232.185 (talk) 19:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Well Done
Whoever wrote this article has a unique and admirable command of the English language; he should be commended.DocEss 18:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the compliment, DocEss.


 * You are welcome. Hey - as an aside, could you include some discussion somewhewre about a popular superstition? The stupid-stition goes like this, as far as I recall: orally quoting any portion of MacBeth in public brings terrible luck upon the quoter. Is there anything to this or has someone walked me up the garden path?DocEss 21:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I don't know about this superstition, only that the play is bad luck if you mention its name in a theater although I had a drama teacher in high school who would be sure to say it once per show! Hew 13:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I have heard for years that in theater circles speaking the name "Macbeth", especially if involved in a production of the play, is considered bad luck. "The Scottish Play" is used instead. It is also part of the folklore that productions of the play are notorious for mishaps. I am not superstitious myself, but... In the 1970s, I saw a performance in Pittsburgh (Christopher Plummer, Glenda Jackson). During the first witches' scene, one of the witches caught fire. The other actors broke character & frenzily patted out the flames, as did a number of stagehands. The buzz in Heinz Hall for the next 20 minutes or so kept anyone from hearing any more lines. 64.128.36.79 14:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

My high school's drama coach (Mr. Cassiato) would fritz if anyone'd say "Macbeth" aloud anywhere near his theater. 76.27.232.185 (talk) 19:59, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

A NPOV violation?
In the section that reads:

"Such a nihilistic conclusion effectively renders the action of the play—and Shakespeare's hopeful suggestion that virtue and justice will ultimately prevail—as altogether meaningless and absurd. In doing so, Polanski considerably alters and diminishes the psychological complexity and emotive grandeur of Shakespeare's story. Instead of a high tragedy and cautionary tale about the devastating effects of corrupt ambitions put into action, Polanski presents a melodramatic and profoundly cynical illustration of how power normally changes hands in a hostile and meaningless universe"

I'm not going to suddenly remove it without allowing for discussion. I however believe it should be removed because I don't think Wikipedia exists to criticze film. I believe it violates the NPOV stance that Wikipedia holds to.

Is it perhaps a quote? If so it can be written "Film critic Joe Blogs believes..."

I'm not going to put one of those "NPOV Violation" notices on the front page yet as pages such as these are often watched very closeley, but if there's not discussion, perhaps I will.

Other than this, its a wonderfully written article. (not to say the section isn't well written, it just doesn't fit. Oh and I don't agree!) Hew 15:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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Plot
The films plot should be added.--Paleface Jack (talk) 05:17, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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Mrs Macbeth
In the DVD version (at least, in the one I got from Netflix), Lady Macbeth's nude soliloquy is considerably abridged from the original. Does anyone know anything about this? Surely it deserves mention?

Paul Magnussen (talk) 04:16, 24 June 2018 (UTC)