Talk:Mace of Ferdinand I of Romania

Requested move 27 June 2018
– Recent discussions (1, 2) resulted in removing the titles of "King" and "Queen" from numerous articles, as the majority of users saw using such styles in the main titles of articles unnecessary. WP:CONSISTENCY also suggests that title consistency should exist between a main topic and its own subtopics. Thus, moving these pages to the suggested titles would be reasonable, as the monarchs' regnal names and the consorts' common names are already in use on their main pages, and the subpages should be consistent with them as well. Keivan.f Talk 00:45, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Mace of King Ferdinand I of Romania → Mace of Ferdinand I of Romania
 * Mace of King Carol II of Romania → Mace of Carol II of Romania
 * Sword of King Carol I of Romania → Sword of Carol I of Romania
 * Crown of Queen Adelaide → Crown of Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen
 * Crown of Queen Alexandra → Crown of Alexandra of Denmark
 * Crown of Queen Mary → Crown of Mary of Teck
 * Crown of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother → Crown of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
 * Crown of Queen Maria of Romania → Crown of Marie of Romania
 * Crown of Queen Elisabeta of Romania → Crown of Elisabeth of Wied
 * Crown of Queen Maria Josepha → Crown of Maria Josepha of Austria


 * Oppose moving British consort crowns, these are actually subpages of Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, and they are also physical objects with proper names, in no way comparable to articles such as List of prime ministers of George V or Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II. Firebrace (talk) 01:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * So do you mean that you support moving the rest of them? By the way, why should the crowns of the British consorts be in this format (Crown of Queen X) while the crowns of the British monarchs such as the State Crown of George I and the Coronation Crown of George IV, or other crowns such as the Crown of Mary of Modena be titled in another way? Per WP:CONSISTENCY, they should all be in the same format, and as I said title consistency should exist between a main topic and its own subtopics, thus there's nothing wrong with moving Crown of Queen Mary to Crown of Mary of Teck as that's the title of her main page as well. Keivan.f  Talk 03:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And as I said, these are not subtopics of queens consort, but of Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom. Titles are in this format because they are proper nouns, like the name of a painting or sculpture. The Crown of Mary of Modena is so-called to avoid confusion with the Crown of Queen Mary. Firebrace (talk) 10:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * About Crown of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother → Crown of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, most people know her as the Queen Mother rather than by her surname Bowes-Lyon. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. First, this is an unusual place, the talk page of a barely existent article, to suggest such a multi-move. Isn't there a more central place you could have picked? Secondly, the suggested target titles are not only barren of the very likely common-name titles that make people aware of the notability of their original wearers, but they employ essentially maiden names, which, especially in regard to the UK consorts, would likely be just plain confusing. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:13, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Since everyone is complaining about the inclusion of British consorts in this list, I ask other users to just ignore that part because I have changed my mind, and I think they should not be moved at this time. Instead, please comment on the potential move of other pages related to the Romanian royalty. Thanks. Keivan.f  Talk 06:25, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * From past experience, I strongly recommend that you withdraw this (disable the RM tag, and do ...), then open a new RM on a more substantive page, with a smaller subset that does not raise the objections the people above are raising. Otherwise this will limp along for a week and close against the moves, and prejudice later attempts to move the ones that are not raising the objections.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:55, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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