Talk:Macintosh 512Ke

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I'm not certain that System 7.0.1 is the upper operating system. While the 512Ke's ROM would support it, System 7 wouldn't boot on anything less than a meg of RAM, and considering the memory upgrade options for the 512Ke required soldering new chips on the motherboard, that doesn't seem to be reasonable. This should probably be changed to System 6.0.8. --oZ (talk) 20:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Upgrade to Mac Plus?
There was a paragraph in the article claiming that there was an "OEM upgrade" that replaced the motherboard and part of the case, transforming the computer into a Mac Plus. I don't see a reference, and I don't think this is true, so I removed the claim. If such an upgrade were marketed, it would have come from Apple directly, of course, unless some crazy company did like the Dynamac and bought a whole Mac Plus, yanked out the motherboard, and sold it to the user to install in his 512Ke ... which sounds unlikely. Tempshill (talk) 21:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't remove claims unless you know they are not true. The Mac Plus upgrade was a very popular upgrade to all of the pre-Plus compact Macs. You are merely wildly speculating based on something you don't have any information on. Note the same claim on the other compact Mac pages and the length of time they have been there. There is an entire community of contributors here who would have instantly removed such a claim if it were not true. Unfortunately for many, many articles on Wiki, there is a lack of documentation to properly source. Apple (OEM stands for Original equipment manufacturer) did indeed market a Mac Plus case bucket and the logic board upgrade. Not the entire Mac Plus. The work had to be performed by an authorized Apple service provider. I really hope you don't apply your specious reasoning to other articles on Wiki where you have no expertise.--Mac128 (talk) 05:08, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't be rude to people who are only trying to help. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

italicized "e"
I think that "512Ke" was just stylization on the front of the case and there isn't any need to italicize the "e" throughout this article. The modern-day Apple support pages linked to in the article, for example, don't italicize the "e". Tempshill (talk) 21:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Once again you are applying your specious reasoning. There was no 512Ke anywhere on the computer. It was market as the 512Ke. It appears that way on the box and all the manuals and advertising. Apple's website would not show the italicized "e" because those documents are largely from electronic notices sent via a BBS back in the 80s which would not have supported such stylized text. This is the same limitation that prevents a italicization of a Wiki title. You really need to stop changing things you know nothing about.--Mac128 (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Photo
Could we get a new photo where the computer doesn't appear to be floating in midair? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantergraph (talk • contribs) 23:58, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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What system?
Hello, I noticed you undid my edit for "Macintosh 512Ke", saying that the edit summary didn't make sense to you.

What I meant was that if the Macintosh Plus- which came out a few months earlier than the 512Ke- was capable of running System 7, then it was also capable of running System 6, so the 512Ke wouldn't be the first Mac that could run System 6.

If I am missing anything that would falsify what I'm saying, kindly let me know.

GVO8891 (talk) 20:31, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your response. Thanks. I'm posting this exchange also on the talk page of the article, which is where stuff like this should go. (As an aside, my first Mac was a 512E enhanced. Somewhere I have a photo of me proudly posing with the marvelous Mac. When I find it, I will post it on the page if nobody objects, although come to think of it my ex-wife owns the copyright. Oh, well.) Anyway, there is a source at the bottom of the paragraph; did you check it? It's broken, so I marked it "citation needed." You should try to find a source for your correction, but if you can't, then just put back your change and keep the "citation needed." Maybe somebody else can find a better source, maybe even you. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I responded there since I thought it would be more of a personal discussion. But yes, commenting on the article page itself seems to make more sense, so I'll continue here.


 * I've checked out the former source via the Wayback Machine, and it's actually more about the original 512K. It only mentions the 512Ke once ("...it looks like EasyShare requires The 128K ROM of the Mac 512Ke."), with nothing about it being the first Mac that can run System 6 (as opposed to the Macintosh Plus). It looks like the source was only intended for the following sentence, "It is also the earliest that can be used as an AppleShare server and, with a bridge Mac, communicate with modern devices", which is discussed in the source (even if it doesn't directly say "first").


 * It seems to me that the AppleShare sentence actually belongs on the article for the original 512K, and that there's nothing to back up the System 6 claim. Since the original 512K could only go up to 4.1, it looks like the Plus was the first capable of running 5-6 as well as 7. Sounds right? GVO8891 (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Lack of evidence of Platinum non-ED 512Ke’s
After some discussion over at 68kmla, I removed the claim (which I marked as ‘citation needed’ 3+ years ago but for which nobody ever provided a citation) that the 512Ke came in a (non-‘Macintosh ED’) Platinum variant. Nobody has ever produced evidence that these machines existed other than a single since-removed photo (linked here) which - on close examination of the rear bucket - is actually a Macintosh ED! (Note ‘ED’ model number.) Why this particular unit has no ‘Macintosh ED’ wordmark on the front case is admittedly a mystery (was it defective?  did someone remove it with acetone inadvertently while cleaning the unit?) but in any event it is clearly NOT a non-ED unit. If someone has other evidence that a non-ED Platinum 512Ke existed, I would love to be proved wrong! Scrutchfield (talk) 14:58, 5 December 2023 (UTC)