Talk:Made in Canada

Requested move 20 December 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Rough consensus the article is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and follows a similar name as other country labels. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 16:57, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Made in Canada → Made in Canada label – This article is not broadly about "things made in Canada" (which I would say is the primary topic of "Made in Canada") but about voluntary country-of-origin product labels/claims and the regulations concerning them. The labels themselves do not have a proper name, they appear in different forms and language, and are not themselves simply called "Made in Canada". I feel that the article should be moved to Made in Canada label or alternatively to Made in Canada (label) with a disambiguation page placed at primary per WP:TWODABS. (There presently being a GA at Made in Canada (TV series).) – Reidgreg (talk) 17:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Further notes: On December 19, this article was moved to primary in place of a good article which was moved to Made in Canada (TV series). Brief discussion at (with no notice on the GA's talk page) held that the label was primary topic.  While I feel that the label is more well-known, it isn't quite the natural name of the subject, and I suspect traffic would be in favour of the TV series.  A |Country_of_origin|Consumer_Packaging_and_Labeling_Act|Made_in_USA pageview comparison with the parent articles Country of origin and Consumer Packaging and Labeling Act (and with Made in USA) gives an idea of what they might be for the Canadian label article (keep in mind that Country of origin is a global subject and that Canada has about 12% the population as the US).  (Incidentally, Made in USA was formerly located at Made in USA label, though I was unable to find a move discussion.)  The next-most popular wordings that appear on such labels are Product of Canada (a redirect), Fabriqué au Canada, and Produit du Canada. I feel that there's a case to move the TV series back to primary, since that is its actual proper name (unlike the generic labels), though I'd be okay with a disambiguation page placed at primary.  That would give the new article a chance to establish its scope and provide fair traffic statistics for possible future discussions. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: Made in USA was only briefly located at Made in USA label to fix the editing history of Made in USA (Sonic Youth album) or Made in USA. A history merge was performed to fix it by User:Graham87 in May 2018. See Public logs for Made in USA. You can see in the original version of COO from 2015 that the link is to "Made in USA" (see this version), not "Made in USA label". Mind  matrix  22:43, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The label is only one aspect of what this topic represents. This article is about the certification marks "Made in Canada" and "Product of Canada" (often but not always grouped as "Made in Canada"). These marks represent voluntary claims made by a company about the origin of its products; a company may additionally add a label to its products stating "Made in Canada" or any number of other claims (as mentioned in the article). Although not yet in the article, such claims are covered by a number of laws, including the Food and Drugs Act and Consumer Packaging and Labelling Act (see, for example, Guidelines defining "Product of Canada" and "Made in Canada" on food labels and advertising at Canadian Food Inspection Agency) and the Competition Act and Textile Labelling Act (see Do I have to put "Made in Canada" or "Product of Canada" labelling on my product? at Competition Bureau Canada), and are covered by  guidelines established by the Competition Bureau.
 * With that said, I oppose the suggested move to Made in Canada label or Made in Canada (label), as neither title is wholly representative of the concept discussed (though they'd make good redirects to this target). Perhaps Made in Canada (certification mark) or a less wordy version of "Country of origin certification marks in Canada" would be a more appropriate target. I believe that the certification mark is a better candidate as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC than the television show (and moreso as time passes, as the mark will likely continue to be used for decades), and that the current title redirect to whatever title is chosen (if any) and the hatnote updated accordingly. If the page is moved, all current redirects should be updated. Mind  matrix  00:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I like Country of origin certification marks in Canada for covering the subject of the article. Assuming that the scope of the article won't cover the use of other countries' certification marks within Canada, it may be redundant to have both country and Canada. How about Canada-origin certification marks?  That will also leave room for how the marks are received outside of Canada (i.e.: whether they encourage or discourage foreign consumers) and for counterfeit goods on the international market. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. This is standard nomenclature. See Made in China, Made in France, Made in Germany, Made in Croatia, Made in Russia, etc. BD2412  T 19:34, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that this is a universal article title practice; there are counter examples like Swiss Made, Australian Made logo, Make in India, 100% Cinta Indonesia and Guaranteed Irish, though these articles often cover government or business-association campaigns as much as country-of-origin. (These can all be found on the navigation template .) – Reidgreg (talk) 04:16, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.