Talk:Madman

Requested move 14 April 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved per Uanfala and King of Hearts and the text of Insanity, whose lack of mention of "madman" supports their arguments. --  JHunterJ (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Madman (disambiguation) → Madman – is currently a redirect to Insanity. This may be related to the primary meaning of the word "madman", and so would make sense for a dictionary, but in an encyclopedia like this it's unlikely that readers will be looking for the concept of insanity using this outdated/informal word, and readers who do search using "madman" will most likely be intending it as a proper noun referring to one or another of the entities listed in the dab page (The ratio of pageviews for Madman (disambiguation) vs. Madman suggests that the majority of readers searching for this term end up clicking through to the dab page). – Uanfala (talk) 13:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose As far as I know, "madman" is not an outdated word. It's still used in common parlance, like "he was waving like a madman". This primary redirect makes perfect sense.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 04:59, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Special:WhatLinksHere/Madman seems to show at least some utility to editors. I think OP is misinterpreting pageviews - its just not a fair comparison. I would not be opposed to re-targetting madman to something more appropriate though, if such a target exists. -- Netoholic @ 05:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * What alternative interpretation is there for the pageviews? As for the incoming links, I see 12 in mainspace : one from the dab page; two where the intended target is a musician (Blue Sky, Tha Supreme), one for the villain (List of Hellboy comics); in the reamining eight it's indeed the common meaning that's intended, but in almost all of these cases it can be argued that it should be unlinked per MOS:OVERLINK as a everyday word understood by most readers. – Uanfala (talk) 11:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - Madman is a colloquial term unlikely to be used by anyone searching for the psychological condition. Disambiguation is absolutely appropriate here. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * To expand: The main two sources of traffic is search (whether internal or Google) and wikilinks. How likely is it for someone to search "madman" in hopes of getting an article on Insanity? I suppose someone who doesn't know what it means, but they should be searching Wiktionary instead. Now, how likely is it for "madman" to be used in encyclopedic prose? Unless used in a direct quote, it's a clear violation of MOS:WTW. So "Madman" will almost always occur as a proper noun. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 07:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)