Talk:Madoc

Altered source
Dunno why I'm editing something that needs merging, but the link in "Several local guest houses and pubs are called Prince Madoc in his memory. However, according to http://www.birch.net/~gbyron/kin/wales/page6.html " is dead. The "Porthmadog named after Madocks, not Madoc" thing is fairly well-established, but if you want a source, http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/historyhunters/locations/pages/4_2_the_cob.shtml will do. That paragraph is still a little confusing, though. Are the local pubs local to Wales, to Porthmadog, or to North America? I presume not the last, but haven't changed the wording there because I am not sure, although I altered quite a lot of the rest of the paragraph. -- Telsa 08:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Both merge notices on the Madog ap Owain Gwynedd and this page say the other is going to end as the ultimate home of the information. Which is it?

Third trip

 * Our article says, and stated he was never to return to Wales again. What words in the reference would make one believe or even think this?
 * Our article also says, Although the folklore tradition acknowledges that no witness ever returned from the second colonial expedition to report this, the story continues that Madoc's colonists travelled up the vast river systems of North America, raising structures and encountering friendly and unfriendly tribes of Native Americans... How could this have been known then if it had not been reported back to Wales and England in a third trip by witnesses? Those events only happened after the second trip.--LordGorval (talk) 19:03, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @LordGorval but there were zero trips. Doug Weller talk 20:32, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Letter
Adding this for future reference, I'm respecting other editor's wishes for it not to be included in the main article.. however, it is still important enough to keep a log of.

Hogyncymru (talk) 04:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)