Talk:Madonna albums discography/Archive 2

Who is the one?, which is vandalism the sales of Madonna's Ray of Light?
I've been wondering, who the h33l always the sales to 16 million copies, many sources has been stated that Ray of Light sold 20 MILLION copies worldwide...

ok... for the record... this is the most outstanding sources for the 20 million claim-Ray of Light.... no need to argue again. 39.208.99.175 (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/2012-03-30/madonnas-top-11-controversies-and-how-they-helped-her-succeed-commercially/

Sales of 'Ray of Light'
According to this source, 'Ray of Light' sold 20 million copies worldwide. Please change it. I&#39;m A Sinner (talk) 02:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It's been changed! — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs 09:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

No it haven't, it have still 16 million sales. I'll change it.--XtinoFrost (talk) 00:03, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Categorization of soundtracks as Madonna albums
I think the inclusion of the Who's That Girl soundtrack (with only four Madonna songs) and the Evita soundtrack (which features a large cast) in a Madonna discography is problematic. In these two cases, Madonna was a contributing artist to the soundtrack album, but strictly speaking, they are not Madonna albums. The I'm Breathless album is unique in that Madonna appears on every track.

If the aim of this discography is to list every album to which Madonna has contributed at least one song, then there are several others that need to be listed here, including The Next Best Thing soundtrack, which contains two original Madonna songs. Rhino79 (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

MDNA UK figure
Please note the new sales figures as per Music Week to be 112,765 copies sold. Can someone update this please? 202.54.176.14 (talk) 07:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Another update from Music Week about UK sales. MDNA sells 118,778 copies in total. 202.54.176.14 (talk) 08:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The Immaculate Collection in Australia
The album has been certified 12&times; Platinum in Australia as per ARIA. Can someone please update it? 202.54.176.14 (talk) 05:35, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

MDNA worldwide sales
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As of June 19, MDNA has sold 1,460,000 albums. Source (citing United World Chart): http://absolutemadonna.com/?p=10323

108.223.61.232 (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC) posted 6/26


 * Closing to clear backlog. If you have an account and if it is 4 days old and has 10 edits, you can edit the page but you might have to get consensus first. A boat   that can float!   (watch me float!)  13:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Absolutemadonna.com is not a WP:reliable source for album sales. It is a fansite. Binksternet (talk) 15:10, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

MDNA sales figures
She has sold 426,000 copies in three weeks. Here is proof of 3rd week sales:

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Please change MDNA's US sales from 407,000 to 426,000 to reflect the 3rd week of sales for MDNA. Thank You! 76.189.253.72 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC).

It is now up from third week sales of 426,000 to four week sales of 440,000. Here is the proof for the fourth week sales:

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Please change MDNA's US sales from 426,000 to 440,000 to reflect four weeks of sales. Thank You! 76.189.253.72 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC).

The album has increased from four week sales of 440,000 to the five week sales of 449,000. Here is proof of the fifth week sales:

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Please change MDNA's US sales from 440,000 to 449,000 to reflect five weeks of sales. Thank You! 76.189.253.72 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC).


 * The source you have provided doesn't seem to support the 449,000 number (I can't find it anywhere on the page) but seems to be showing the weekly sales. Where did you get 449,000? Did you do the math yourself, or is there another source somewhere for it?
 * Also, is it standard practice to constantly update the numbers, or do the numbers listed represent the sales during a fixed number of weeks? ~Adjwilley (talk) 22:31, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

MDNA sales should be changes to 477,000 copies in the U.S. according to Ask Billboard: http://m.billboard.com/v/News/AskBillboardIsMadonn/?KSID=47d1deef34f99e3e07e039ecc9b405ab — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.105.248.197 (talk) 15:08, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Please change MDNA sales to 502,000. Details and sources can be found on the album's page, more specificaly "Commercial performance". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.79.225 (talk) 19:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

mdna gets Gold in USA
MDNA has been sold 504'000 times in the USA, so it's got Gold. Please update that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.199.220.47 (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Ray of Light
Ray of Light sold 20 million

http://www.vogue.com/voguepedia/Madonna (SuperCell3000 (talk) 17:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC))


 * That is one source. There are others which say other numbers. The Guardian says 16 million in this article. Other numbers: UK Mix = 13 million, 14 million, 15 million, and 16 million. The 20 million number appears to me to be pulled out of thin air. Binksternet (talk) 02:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Please see Talk:Ray of Light. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 04:13, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Ray of Light
Ray of Light sold 20 million http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/150058.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoreMoneyGomes (talk • contribs) 16:30, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


 * That is one source. There are others which say other numbers. The Guardian says 16 million in this article. Other numbers: UK Mix = 13 million, 14 million, 15 million, and 16 million. Madonna's official website says 14 million: "...sold over four million units in the U.S., and another 10 million outside America." Bloomberg wrote in November 2005 that "Ray of Light and Music sold 30 million copies in total", which means about 15 million each. (Music sold 15 million, leaving Ray of Light 15 million.
 * Please see Talk:Ray of Light. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 16:33, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Ray of Light sold 20 million http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/150058.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoreMoneyGomes (talk • contribs) 16:30, 23 December 2012 (UTC) ref. BBC


 * Sorry, not gonna fly. One reference does not tell the whole story. Binksternet (talk) 00:11, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

MDNA + SOME OTHER ALBUMS

 * MDNA sold 1,600,000 million copies worldwide in 2012. That should be ww numbers.
 * source: mediatraffic.de
 * True Blue sold 22,5 million copies ww.
 * Immaculate Collection sold 28,5 million copies ww.
 * Ray Of Light sold 15,3 million copies ww.
 * Like A Prayer sold 14,1m copies ww.
 * Evita sold 6,6m ww.
 * Music only sold 10,8m ww.
 * Something To Remember sold 9,8m ww.
 * Debut album sold 9,2m ww.
 * Confessions OAD sold 8,8m ww.
 * Bedtime Stories 7,5m ww.
 * I'm Brethless 6,9m ww.
 * Erotica 6,8m ww.
 * source: fanofmusic.free.fr And it should be a reliable source, since that guy does some work on mediatraffic.de

82.135.153.237 (talk) 09:43, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I don't think fanofmusic is a reliable source. Could you get one that is uncontestably notable? And/or an actual link to the source page? Vacation nine 14:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Sales
Hello everyone. I think that is neccesary put the U.S. sales after the advent of the Nielsen SoundScan era in 1991. E.g. Like a Virgin sold a further 574,000 copies. Obvious, with a note. Regards. Chrishonduras (talk) 18:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about adding the sales to the existing ones? Because that would violate WP:SYNTH I think. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 02:27, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

MDNA SALES
IF MDNA had sold 1,800,000 don't you guys think it could have been at the #1 Spot on "the Official Top 40 Biggest Selling Albums of 2012?" Here have a look for yourself, MDNA is nowhere near the Top 40....http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-selling-albums-of-2012-revealed-1785/ HardRocks2012 16:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Check it again, it says the Worldwide sales, not UK sales which is what the Official charts link gives. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 01:11, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

"Live albums" section chart positions
People need to decide whether to include either album chart positions or DVD chart positions in that section. Some country's positions come from album charts, others are from DVD charts, and some seem to be a mixture of both (with the highest positions selected, obviously). Those albums were released on multiple formats, but that section is clearly labelled live albums, so it's only fair that album chart positions are included. A separate section for Video album/DVD chart positions should then be added to Madonna videography, if people still wish to do so. Homeostasis07 (talk) 00:59, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You are correct adn this seriously needs to be done. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 03:34, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Alan Jackson albums discography which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:31, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Ray of Light special edition
"Ray of Light Sp. Ed." charted in NZ and was certified Gold. Scapolo's book lists this album as Ray of Light/Immaculate Conception. I am unfamiliar with Madonna's releases so I'm not sure whether this release is already listed (under a different name) or whether it needs to be added. Adabow (talk) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, this is not present in the Box Set section, would you please add it? — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 03:54, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

True Blue: 24 Million WorldWide
According to "Warner Music Italy" the "Official" sales of True Blue are 24,000,000 copies worldwide.

Here are two sources;

- Image1: Advertisement of the True blue album in the Corriere della Sera newspaper, with the official Warner Brothers 50 anniversary logo (2008).

http://www.madonnatribe.com/i_11/dalleoriginialmito_001.jpg

- Image2: Second advertisement of the True blue album in the Corriere della Sera newspaper, with the official Warner Brothers 50 anniversary logo (2008).

http://www.madonnatribe.com/i_11/dalleoriginialmito_502.jpg

Old Worldwide Album Sales
According to Warner Music Italy, "True Blue" has sold 24 million Worlwide:

http://www.arbenina.com/pics/trueblue.jpg

According to Music week "The immaculate Collection" has sold around 30 million copies and "GHV2" has sold 7 million copies.

http://www.madonnatribe.com/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1302

Other sales are underrated, (10 years old sales).

which countries to list?
Is there any overarching guidance on which countries to list in the chart overview? The current selection seems quite arbitrary (why Austria and Switzerland, but not bigger markets like Japan and The Netherlands?). Since this is the English-language Wikipedia, I can imagine having only English-speaking countries in the list. Alternatively, there could be an overview of the 10 biggest music markets (Japan, US, Germany, UK, France, Australia, Canada, Italy, Netherlands and Brazil in 2010, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_music_industry_market_share_data#IFPI_2010_data).

Why is there no singles category?
I mean really am i supposed to go through every album link to find how her singles charted, I DEMAND SOMEBODY WITH ABSOLUTELY NO LIFE MAKE A SINGLES SECTION SO I CAN SATISFY MY CURIOSITY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.114.52 (talk) 00:51, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Madonna singles discography already exists. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 02:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

New numbers of records sales
http://popdirt.com/madonna-the-reining-queen-of-music/52110/ ;
 * Madonna has sold 350 million records worldwide
 * COADF : 15 million(It is estimated that to date COADF has global sales of at least 13 to 15 million copies.)
 * Bedtime Stories: 10.2 million
 * Erotica: 7.8 million
 * Something to Remember 12 million
 * Music: 17.8 million
 * GHV2: 8.6 million
 * American Life: 7.2 million
 * Evita: 14.2 million
 * Like A Prayer: 23 million
 * True Blue: 28 million — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 01:22, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * No again. Its unreliable. Can you please stop posting? —Indian:<font color="#FF033E">BIO  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 10:18, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh my God! I'm just saying! so why do you exaggerate? Just saying! Is it forbidden? or illegal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 11:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. And your incessant trying to update Madonna's sales from unreliable sources are getting on my nerves. You have no clue regarding WP:RS and don't want to learn also. Seriously Wikipedia does not seem like a place for you. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">Indian:<font color="#FF033E">BIO  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 11:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Let's discuss Madonna's album sales
300 million sales: albums or records? Which one is right? Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. And Guinness World Records says in their official record page: (Best-selling female recording artist) http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist : Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. That means Madonna has sold more than 300 million albums since The First Album: Madonna (1983) I talk to Guinness World Records on Facebook. And they said: ''Hello Metehan, The record title of 'Best-selling female recording artist' is specifically related to album sales. Monitoring album sales is standard for the music industry and for this particular record category. As you can see from our record page, we already state that this for album sales http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983.'' So, that means Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. and Guinness World Records says 300 million sales are specifically related to album sales. and again that means her update album sales are +300 million. Because Guinness World Records is only official institution for this record. And they said clearly Madonna has sold more than 300 million albums since Madonna album.

Their official record page: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist : Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. It means specifically and clearly Madonna has sold more than 300 million albums and this is only official information for album sales. Because Guinness World Records is recognized Madonna as the best selling female recording artist. Not the other institutions.

That's why you can't write Having sold more than 300 million records worldwide, Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. Because Guinness World Records says: Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. at their official record page: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 22:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * And you need to get it in your head that there are countless other sources reporting 300 million records sales, not albums. We appreciate your agenda in putting album sales everywhere but just WP:DROPIT. Guiness is not an authoritative source for music sales. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 09:21, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I understand but Guinness is an authoritative source for this record(best selling female recording artist) and directly album sales figures of Guinness is the right figures? Navyiconer (talk) 09:41, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * firstly please learn to sign your posts. They might be authoritative for best selling records, but not authoritative on the quantitative analysis. As i said, when there are countless other third party sources calling it records and not albums, and only Guiness says so, we would go with the majority however reliable Guiness maybe. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 09:39, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

But Guinness is not like the other third party sources. Madonna has sold more than 300 million records This information is used everywhere. Everybody writes and calls 300 million records So, nobody research what is the real Madonna's figures. And then Guinness(only authoritative source for this record) researching her real figures and then they declare Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. And then Madonna becoming the Best-selling female recording artist with this album sales figures Navyiconer (talk) 09:55, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Where is your proof that only Guiness has been researching? And open your eyes from the blind stanning that you have been doing, 300 million album sales is just impossible. Coupled with another 150 million singles sales, her record sales would be over 450 million, plus another 50 million for video sales it will be in The Beatles category. Face it, Guiness made a mistake, and they are sticking with it instead of correcting it. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 10:00, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay, Madonna's 300 million album sales is impossible, then Rihanna's 200 million records sales is impossible too. Riaa's certificates is not just sales. certificates are = streaming+sales. So, her certificates more than her sales. Because she is most viewed artist on youtube, Most streaming artist on Spotify etc.. She has sold more than just 180 million records....
 * Rihanna's business is not here to discuss. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 10:14, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay, sorry, when you talking about The Beatles. im thinking about Rihanna's unreliable records sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 10:18, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

You talked about The Beatles records sales. But those old artist (The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presyley, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion and Whitney Houston) their figures of records sales are too old. I saw many sources for The Beatles has sold more than 2 billion records. Elvis Presley has sold more than 1 billion records And Michael Jackson has sold more than 750 million records. Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah carey and Whitney Houston figures of records sales actually their only albums sales. Guinness first explanation: ''Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. As of October 2013, Madonna had sold an estimated 305,600,000 albums. Her best-sellers are The Immaculate Collection (1990, 30 million copies sold) and True Blue (1986, 25 million copies sold). Although precise sales figures are difficult to obtain and are often disputed, it is acknowledged that only The Beatles, Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson have conclusively sold more albums worldwide than Madonna.Among female artists, Mariah Carey (USA), Celine Dion (Canada) and Whitney Houston (USA, 1963-2012) all have total worldwide album sales estimated at 200 million units.'' They talking about only album sales for those female artists. Maybe you should update the sales figures in all of these artists. Nothing is impossible :) —Navyiconer (talk) 12:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Nope, all of that was already invalidated in long discussions at List of best-selling music artists as promotional paraphernalia from the record companies and gross inflation. As said, the certifications matter when we are sourcing sales for a certain artist and all the articles in wikipedia follow this. And sorry to say, I don't buy your personal correspondence with Guiness, because none of your actions in Wikipedia has ever been constructive. You do not understand wP:OR, WP:CONSENSUS and WP:FANCRUFT. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 13:20, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay I understand. At least can we write Madonna has sold more than 350 million records ? Is there any source for 350 million records ? I hope there is. Beacuse Madonna's total album sales on Wikipedia → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_albums_discography around 231 million. And singles sales on → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_singles_discography +115 million. It's total +350 million records sales. After all of these 300 million records sales is very little. Cuase her total records sales on Wikipedia around +350 million —Navyiconer (talk) 13:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@IndianBio ? —Navyiconer (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Navyiconer, you are completely missing the WP:OR policy of Wikipedia. What you are implying is something which violates both the previous policy and summation of different sources to come to a different conclusion. Please remember that sales individually are already inflated for any artist, be it Rihanna, be it Michael Jackson, be it Lady Gaga. Her certified sales are already listed in List of best-selling music artists, and per the timeframe from where she started charting, her actual sales (with inflations) cannot be more than 300 million records, this conclusion was drawn long ago through extensive discussions. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 18:11, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay IndianBio, Thanks for the clarification —Navyiconer (talk) 19:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@IndianBio, Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. not top selling. Can you write best selling on this link → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_albums_discography —Navyiconer (talk) 22:50, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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Categorization of soundtracks as Madonna albums
I think the inclusion of the Who's That Girl soundtrack (with only four Madonna songs) and the Evita soundtrack (which features a large cast) in a Madonna discography is problematic. In these two cases, Madonna was a contributing artist to the soundtrack album, but strictly speaking, they are not Madonna albums. The I'm Breathless album is unique in that Madonna appears on every track.

If the aim of this discography is to list every album to which Madonna has contributed at least one song, then there are several others that need to be listed here, including The Next Best Thing soundtrack, which contains two original Madonna songs.

Rhino79 (talk) 13:07, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it has been long discussed in third party sources that they are soundtrack albums catering to a film, but wholly credited to Madonna by Nielsen SoundScan, RIAA as well as dozens of third party sources. This is in contradiction with albums that you mentioned like The Next Best Thing, which are not considered Madonna albums by third party sources. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 13:15, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

True Blue has sold 30 million
I found this source: http://womenandhollywood.com/2010/04/21/the-power-of-tv-glee-uses-madonna-to-address-sexism/ = True Blue has sold 30 million.

This source is unreliable? This source Indiewire's website: http://blogs.indiewire.com/womenandhollywood/ Guys we all know True Blue has sold more than Like A Virgin. Come on. Like A Virgin has sold 25 million... then True Blue how many sold copies? —Navyiconer (talk) 23:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Is anyone in here? —Navyiconer (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

If everbody ignore me i think this information it's true.... I'm updating worldwide figures for True Blue —Navyiconer (talk) 14:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It's an unreliable source. Bluesatellite (talk) 00:42, 25 April 2016 (UTC)



What are these reliable soruces? Can you say all? I'm sick all of this unreliable source or reliable source. —Navyiconer (talk) 01:10, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * True Blue has not sold 30 million, not even close. Read WP:SOURCES if you can't understand what a reliable source is. Bluesatellite (talk) 01:20, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes True Blue has sold 30 million. Is IndieWıre unreliable source? I don't think so. —Navyiconer (talk) 19:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Please let me update. IndieWire is reliable source. —Navyiconer (talk) 20:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Please look that source. This source website of IndieWire. Please let me update. —Navyiconer (talk) 01:49, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't go on asking the same thing again and again. It has been intimated to you above by Bluesatellite that True Blue has not sold 30 million, and indieWire is not even that reliable source like Rolling Stone or Billboard or The Times or BBC etc. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 08:20, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay then how Today's Zaman can be reliable source? Like A Virgin's 25 million sales source. Every source says Like A Virgin has sold 21 million. And somebody added the Today's Zaman source for 25 million and nobody say nothing. How? Why? And when I wanna add the source everbody aganist me. Why? Today's Zaman is a local daily newspaper in Turkey. How Today's Zaman can be reliable source? —Navyiconer (talk) 11:47, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Certified sales of True Blue:

Argentina 	240,000 Australia 	280,000 Brazil 	1,800,000 Canada 		1,000,000 France 	1,353,500 Finland 	53,912 Germany 	1,000,000 Hong Kong 	15,000 Japan          718,000 Netherlands 	300,000 New Zealand 	75,000 Spain 	       300,000 United Kingdom 1,997,015 United States  7,000,000 Italy          1,550,000

Total: 17,682,427

Ofcouse that album has sold 30 million. Please think. And please answer my questions about Today's Zaman and Like A Virgin, if you can. —Navyiconer (talk) 14:35, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

This is Talk page but nobody talks. Everbody doing what they want except me. you all aganist me. i can't get it. im saying this is the source and ofcourse that album sold 30 million. it is possible. and obviously sold. im asking questions about like a virgin everbody is silent. when the others want doing something it's okay. but when i want it: Stop! There is rules!!! You can'tdo this !!! if i can't do this but how like a virgin sold 25 million? every source says that album 21 million except wikipedia. where are you when like a virgin edit for 25 million? —Navyiconer (talk) 19:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You know what, STOP being a disruptive little kid! Not everyone has time to look into a talk page always and seriously nobody has time for your psychomania. Two editors have disagreed with this source and explained also. If you want to talk about any other content, then raise an appropriate section for it. But god help me if you go on adding the content again I will drag your ass to WP:ANI. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 05:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. —Navyiconer (talk) 06:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Again Stop being a dick! I'm searching in the history who added that Like a Virgin claim and don't disrupt it. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 06:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

You are so rude. You know that? —Navyiconer (talk) 06:15, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Like a Virgin was added by Watquaza on 04:24, February 15, 2015. Nobody noticed that and it surely does not look like a reliable source so I will be reverting it. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 06:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

How nobody noticed that? Are u kidding me? it's been 1 year! when im added something everbody revert it in an 1 hour!! how can't you notice this? It's fucking 1 year! How couldn't you see? You was a blind? —Navyiconer (talk) 06:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please remember that no one has time and energy to spend on Wikipedia always. So again, so being a dick, move on. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 06:25, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh no i don't think so. You always has time and energy to spend on Wikipedia. Your whole life spend on Wikipedia you are on every article in Wikipedia you are everywhere. when im change somethings you always remove it in a 1 or 2 hours. Good luck for this silly things. I'm done with stupid Wikipedia things. what's happening when you are editing everything on Wikipedia? Wikipedia gives you money? i don't think so. You are not even English. You are from Indian. What are you doing here? Back your country boy. —Navyiconer (talk) 06:34, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't dig a grave for yourself, you are already a problematic user. Learn to respect consensus, what other users are saying and learn to abide by rules. Consider this as a final warning. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 06:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Reliable source
Hello guys. http://www.gigwise.com/photos/101122/what-is-the-best-selling-album-of-all-time-here-are-the-top-50 It's the 50 best selling albums of all time list and Like A Virgin number 41 with 25 million sales. this list including 23 million sales and over albums. its reliable source —Navyiconer (talk) 21:14, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, and you better stop this Navyiconer because its beyond disruptive. You continuously find these unreliable sources when time and time again you have been asked not to do so. Do you ever learn or are you just blind to these discussions and the warnings? —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF">I<font color="#FF033E">B  [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">Poke ] 08:19, 27 May 2016 (UTC)