Talk:Madurai Nayaks

As requested I'm undertaking an overall copyedit, here, both for general English grammar/syntax and to shorten. It's a big article, so I hope others will help too: it's a really interesting article, I think, and merits the work. I've added a "Bibliography & Resource List" and will be adding general sources there, but I hope whoever wrote this will put in specific references where these are needed, too.

--Kessler 22:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent work! However we should probably split this into a number of bio article and keep this as the summary article on Madurai Nayaks.
 * - Parthi 22:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I dunno. I sort of like the "flow" of the overview chronicle/text: for anyone who has been to Madurai and / or its region the article provides a pretty good summary of the period it addresses -- I'd hate to see that get too broken up. But a couple of the rulers described do get pretty detailed coverage, don't they: I suppose Tirumala and Queen Meenakshi could get broken out into independent articles just on each of them, couldn't they. We're currently at 48k, here: that would get us back down below 32k, I guess.

--Kessler 00:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Took your suggestion and edited out the sections on Tirumala, Chokkanatha, and Rani Mangammal -- interesting folks on their own, all three, merit their own articles -- I merged the text into existing articles on them or starting new articles, and left just "please see link" notes here. We're now down from 48k to only 30k: still getting "article size" warnings at only 30k, for what reason I don't know, do you? I'm going to leave it there for now, tho, and just continue with my copyedit.

--Kessler 17:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Basic copyedit is complete. This history is one of the more interesting I've ever read: I hadn't known it -- been to the region itself, but never knew the stories -- plenty of fascinating themes and plots, in all of that, with all the "Heroes" and the "Embattled Queens", and all the "skulduggery" and "Last Stands", for any number of short stories and novels and Bollywood etc. feature films...

I hope others here will come up with the missing citations for the few uncited quotes left. I will summarize & rewrite those, for now, but we can get them back into the article once someone comes up with valid citations to include in the references.

--Kessler 21:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

"Madurai" vs. "Madura" ?
Someone please clarify for me the distinction between the terms "Madurai" and "Madura"?

Does the first refer only to the city and the second to the entire region? Or is the first the more modern term and the second the more ancient? Or are they co-extensive, and used interchangeably?

--Kessler 23:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Madurai is the correct usage for the town of Madurai and the district. Madura is the anglisized name and should not be used to refer to the current town in Tamil Nadu as it is confused with the north Indian town of the same name of the Javanese territory of Madura - Parthi 01:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

OK thanks very much.

--Kessler 15:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Some more Info The original name was Madhura after the more ancient Hindu religious place called Mathura (North India), associate with Lord Krishna. The name evolved as Madura and later Madurai.