Talk:Maggie Q/Archive 1

Maggie Q and David Lim?
The last sentence: maggie q is currently dating david lim. There is no punctuation... and is it actually true? Or did someone just put that down absurdly? I believe that there is editing needed for this article. But can someone please clarify? Everything looks fine except for that bizarre sentence.

Superstar
I wouldn't consider Maggie Q a superstar. I wouldn't consider Daniel Henney a superstar. Maggie hasn't even had a leading role in a Chinese movie.

--Naked Weapon is something I would consider a leading role. She was a supermodel known in China and Japan, so even if she wasn't in films there at all, she still would be considered a superstar.

Copyright
I notice a large chunk of the article was copied, admittedly, from here. We shouldn't do that - we should write our own text, using information from others, not copy-and-paste. Mad Jack O&#39;Lantern 05:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

A section of the article was copied from here too. Sloot 05:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

too many cats
The categories attached to this article were substantially trimmed. How many categories is "too many"? Is there a guideline? -- Mikeblas 08:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I would argue for the removal of the eurasian model one as she is definitely more notable for her career as an actor now (mi3 etc) Tyhopho 09:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

French ancestry
I have restored the mention of her French ancestry and there is zero reason to remove it. It comes from this interview, certainly a first-hand source. Just because other interviews don't go into as much detail as to her father's ancestry, doesn't mean it's inaccurate. When it comes to great-grandparents' ancestry and the like, certainly sources don't always give the blow-by-blow. Mad Jack 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

The source is from a fansite. How is that considered 'a first-hand source'? My source was a transcript of the interview and Maggie states just Polish and Irish.

  actionfilmscomedies.suite101.com/article.cfm/MaggieQOnMissionImpossible

All these three articles state just Polish and Irish on her father's side as well. I have yet to see any other article stating French ancestry, and the link you provided was from a fansite that quoted. Can you provide another source. I dont know how an article from 3 years ago, is in comparison to an article that actually has a quote from Maggie herself. Can you provide another source or at least explain how reliable the one you provided is. --Macaubabe 08:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * My source is an interview with Maggie. Needless to say, an interview is reliable enough. Presumably, any information provided in the interview comes from Maggie herself. Obviously, her father having Polish and Irish ancestry doesn't contradict with her father also having French ancestry, so I don't even see this as a source vs. source problem. Mad Jack 17:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Its not a source vs source problem, its more of the ratio of how many sources omit to French ancestry against those that dont. I'll agree, but i just think that in this scenario, one source is not enough considering all the other sources that omit to French ancestry outweigh those that actually state French ancestry, which is only one right now. --Macaubabe 20:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Eh, some of the sources you gave aren't much reliable, and, one can find similar sources that mention French  . Other sites just say Irish and omit Polish as well! I don't see how the interview could be wrong, though, and there's little reason to believe it is. Mad Jack 20:24, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

See we are judging each other's sources so this is turning into a sources vs sources match. Anyways, so there are sources (reliable or not) out there that include French, thats basically all i needed to see. Howeever i still stand by my claim since that interview is a direct quote from Maggie, and it would be strange for Maggie to omit a part of her heritage but whatever. --Macaubabe 09:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Since Vietnam was ruled by France at one time it could have been possible she had some French ancestry but then it would be on her mother's side and it's supposedly on her father's side. So that would not be correct.
 * Many Poles moved to France after World War II. Maybe her father's Polish side of the family lived in France at one time. Then she could technically be called part French.
 * Her name sounds Irish Catholic. Of course, Poland and France are mostly Catholic too.
 * She went to a Catholic school.

ethnicity in header
The lead sentence should remain "American". Discuss her family background and ethnicity further into the article per WP:MOSBIO. Thanks! --Tom 12:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Nationality
Per WP:MOSBIO #3 a biography should give Nationality. Removing this should be considered vandalism and users should be warned accordingly. --After Midnight 0001 04:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection
I don't see what's there to discuss. WP:MOSBIO says, and several editors have agreed as well, that only nationality should be mentioned in the header. It's a case of a single user going against consensus and the style guideline of Wikipedia. Mad Jack 05:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * As far as I know about Wikipedia rules and guidelines, if one user vandalizes article over and over, eventually that user gets blocked from editing that article. Until that happens, and as far as I know, main reason for protecting this specific article was to stop random users starting flame war because they think their opinion is better than the guideline. I also know that some guidelines contradict with itselves and that is something Wikipedia really should avoid. Monni 06:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What I'm really saying is that the problem is a single user who has already been reverted by several people on this issue, but doesn't seem to listen and continues reverting. He (User:Armyranger) has currently been blocked for 3rr. Mad Jack 06:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposing on changing what is along guidelines, but I do think protecting this article was a good thing. I'm neither opposing unprotecting this page after 3rr block expires and user doesn't continue vandalising other pages in similar way. Monni 07:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, he has returned and reverted again on the only article that is not currently semi-protected to include his version (Kelly Hu). Suggestions? (Or, wishful thinking, unprotecting them all and reverting back to WP:MOSBIO) Mad Jack 06:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Three choices:
 * (Semi-)protect all vandalized articles
 * Block user for longer time
 * (Semi-)protect all vandalized articles and block user for longer time


 * I really don't want to be the judge and the jury, but I don't like at all people trashing my watchlist with indifferent edits. Monni 07:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * My only problem with the semi-protection is that this article and Cristy Thom are currently stuck on Armyranger's version (the one that's been reverted by several editors and breaks WP:MOSBIO) Mad Jack 08:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see it as a problem at all... Like the protection guideline says, clean vandalism can be reverted by an admin even if page is protected due a dispute. Also... In the strictest sense "American" isn't really a nationality in the same way "Asian American" or even "Asian" isn't. It's a continent containing several countries. I've seen several articles changed from "British" to "English" because of same reason. I have to admit that putting "American" is best compromise though. There isn't easy adjectival form of "United States of America". Monni 08:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Commenting only procedurally, semi-protection would have no effect here, that will only prevent editing by IPs or users that are less than 4 days old. (plus the guideline says not to use semi-protection in edit disputes) --After Midnight 0001 13:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

We're talking about the United States as a country - America, not the continent. "Asian American" isn't a nationality because there is no country called Asian-America. I don't quite understand where we are at, right now. Are you saying that you won't unprotect this article until Armyranger is either blocked or goes away? I doubt we'll be lucky enough to get him blocked for 3rr again, and, what qualifies as "goes away" anyway? Mad Jack 18:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Last time I checked, I wasn't an admin here. So I'm not in any case going to unprotect this article. What comes to "goes away", for me it is enough that no similar vandalising happens in a week on an article that isn't protected or semi-protected. Monni 18:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Can we get this unprotected so the article can be "fixed"? Also, can we please get Armyranger nuked asap. That would end this issue it seems. Anyways,--Tom 13:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the procedure goes something like this:

editprotected

Asian-American -> American

(first sentence in lead section)

Monni 16:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You have the procedure right, but I think that in cases like this it is better to wait for the page to be unprotected rather than for an admin to make small edits like this. If the last vandalism was libelous or obscene, then it would appropriate for me to revert it now. CMummert · talk 17:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I unprotected the article. Please take care to follow the three revert rule and report violations of it to WP:AN3. CMummert · talk 17:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

People REALLY need to learn that the word "Nationality" refers exclusively to what your passport says, it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. --BradTraylor (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Vietnamese ancestry
to the racist vandalizer who repeatedly tries to remove information about maggie's vietnamese ancestry out of shame - yes it's true what you said that mixed race kids are looked down upon in Vietnam but that was decades ago and things are changing now even though it may still be a reality. Also, regardless of social norms in whatever given country wikipedia is not a playing ground for you to share your racist views.

Maggie has been featured in MANY MANY vietnamese language articles in Vietnamese magazines, online articles, both in Vietnam and in the overseas Vietnamese community - so obviously you are wrong in claiming that no Vietnamese care about her. What her mother did is her personal business and is none of your business to judge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.196.104.66 (talk • contribs) 2007-07-17 00:44:26

Vietnamese name
What is her Vietnamese name? "Ly My Ky" seems to be just a Vietnamese pronunciation of her "Chinese name." Badagnani 05:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Her name is Margaret Denise Quigley. The "Chinese name" is just a stage name she adopted for the Chinese audience.  I don't see any reason why she would have a Vietnamese name, considering that she was born in the United States and her father's last name is Quigley. DHN 06:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm not even sure why she is using 李 as her Chinese surname, maybe that's her mother's surname or maybe the media just gave that to her. At any rate, if she is notable in Vietnamese media, we should consider having her Vietnamese name in the article.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The Vietnamese media treats her name like any Hong Kong star's. She is either known as "Maggie Q" or by the Vietnamese reading of her Chinese stage name, "Lý Mỹ Kỳ".  If a person didn't know better, they'd assume from her name that she's an ethnic Chinese like any other Hong Kong stars. DHN 17:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Last name
This article makes use of "Maggie" in the body. Should we switch to "Q" instead? I would normally go ahead and do it, but I thought there might have been some previously-agreed convention. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Language?
I know she claims she took Canto and Mando language lessons during her time in China/HK, however it should definitely be pointed out that Maggie's grasp of Chinese is very poor, even compared to Asian kids raised in Western countries. She can barely get two or three Chinese words out; in the movies, she is seen speaking only English. Could we change this, or would it be too NPOV? ★ Dasani ★ 22:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

sex tape
no mention about leaked sex tape? 71.99.92.124 (talk) 14:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Permanent protection due to repeated vandalism and revert edits
Her biography should be permanently protected. There has been a history of repeated vandalism, insertion of false claims of Chinese ethnicity, and revert edits. Almost all of the twelve sources listed state that her mother came from Vietnam. As referenced in the NY Mag source, her father, who is American of Irish and Polish descent, met her mother when he was stationed in Vietnam during the war; she is not of Chinese descent, and just because she made Hong Kong films or etc. does not mean she is a Hong Kong actress or a Chinese actress and etc.Pop goes the weasel (talk) 14:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want the page protected, then you will need to ask at the requests for page protections page. Hope this helps.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   242° 47' 45" NET   16:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I did, thanks. Hopefully, this article won't be issued a two week protection, but a permanent one since the aforementioned (and other inappropriate slurs) have been occurring since January 3, 2008.Pop goes the weasel (talk) 05:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Deafness
According to this webpage, citing interviews she's given, Q is apparently deaf in one ear due to a stunt going wrong in her pre-Nikita days. This is pretty significant and should be mentioned in her biography. Given the editing controversy mentioned above I figured I'd put this here and let an established editor add it in. 68.146.64.9 (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Good find, buddy. As long as you cite a verifiable source for the information you add, it shouldn't be a problem. My main concern is the untrue ethnic stuff and sexual slurs that keeps on getting added on a weekly basis.Pop goes the weasel (talk) 20:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The article says "suffered temporary hearing loss," that is "temporary." I do not see why it is included in the article. It was difficult to read and I took it in wrongly in a sad way until I read "temporary." The point is it is a unnecessary shock. For instance, you guys don't put that she fell down doing a stunt and fractured a bone temporary (if that did happen) ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.18.215 (talk) 01:30, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Her name is Maggie
Could we quit calling her "Q" in every damn reference in the entire article? When she's listed as "Q" in the credits of a show/movie, then we should publicly list her as that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.232.105 (talk) 22:15, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * In written word, you either refer to people by Mr./Ms. Last Name, their last name only, or their full name. She has chosen to go with just Q as her last name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pop goes the weasel (talk • contribs) 19:19, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, her name is 'Maggie'; but her popular name and her chosen name is 'Q'. Let Wikipedia readers have their fun! Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 12:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC) PS: Her name is Maggie Q .!.

Tattoo location
In the "Personal life" section, I edited it to read "she has a tattoo on her buttocks," from the original "she has a tattoo on her ass." I don't like my phrasing--it sounds kind of silly--but the original was tasteless and poorly phrased. Somebody who can think of a better way of putting it, please do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.153.69 (talk) 13:43, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Rescue
The article mentions she rescued some dogs - Did she rescue them from a burning building or something? That sounds like it's worth adding. --BradTraylor (talk) 17:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

'Q' stands for Quigley, obviously.
Some one just changed 'Q' to 'Quigley' in the first paragraph of Early Life. At first I didn't like the change, but upon reflection, the change seem great and more in accordance with Wikipedia readability and understanding. However, using 'Q' in the second paragraph seems best to me. (As it stands!) Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 12:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Page strangeness
I'm seeing some definite weirdness with this article that I hope someone can help with. When I'm logged in, both of these pages contain the same (wrong) first sentence in the Early Life section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Q and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_q (the latter says "(Redirected from Maggie q)")

The sentence is: Quigley was born and raised in Hong Kong (China).

However, if I am not logged in (e.g., incognito window), then the latter (/Maggie_q) shows the correct information: Quigley was born and raised in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Note that even when not logged in, it still says that it's (Redirected from Maggie q)

Can anyone explain this weird discrepancy (I don't conceptually understand why it happens)? I'd like to fix the information, but am hesitant to do so because I want someone else to see it and prove I'm not crazy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thestorm042 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Not a reliable source
"She is now dating her co-star from Nikita, Shane West. They have been together since roughly around September of 2010. It has been rumored to be an on and off relationship. [19]"

A random dating website where there aren't verifications from the actors themselves don't count. Objections to removing?--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 08:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
 * No objections. I removed it. Nymf hideliho! 09:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Those most interested can read it here on the TALK page and see what develops. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 01:16, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Fourth and final season of TV 'Nikita'
From Nikita_(TV_series);

Nikita was renewed for a shortened fourth and final season on May 9, 2013. It premiered on November 22, 2013, to run six straight weeks, ending on December 27, 2013. The season will consist of the six episodes. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:58, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Is she related to Chef Kya?
On Chef Kya's Facebook page, she mentioned Maggie as her auntie. See https://www.facebook.com/ChefKya/photos/a.758728634256612.1073741828.755506594578816/804715469657928/?type=3&theater Kowloonese (talk) 22:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Gladiator?
On 2018-04-15, someone with the unlikely handle: 2001:e68:543c:11cd:62d9:a0ff:fed3:c0db, added the following unreferenced sentence: "She will be starring alongside Liev Schreiber, Jessica Chastain, Samantha Bond, Jaimie Alexander, Helen Hunt, Josh Henderson, Juliette Lewis and Emily Mortimer in Gladiator: Fight for Freedom." A google search for that title turns up nothing except references to the young adult novel by that title, but absolutely no references to anyone making, or even contemplating making, a movie of said book. I therefore removed the sentence. If someone has an actual real reference to such a movie, please post a link. Gcronau (talk) 10:24, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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"However, her character was killed off early..."
Why do you do this?37.201.155.170 (talk) 20:21, 4 July 2021 (UTC)