Talk:Maghreb–Europe Gas Pipeline

Mach 2023
1) you misrepresented the first source (violating WP:BLP in the process) by attributing tensions between Algeria and Morocco since the Maghreb-Europe Gas Pipeline was closed in October 2021 to it. 2) The baseless speculation by Atalayar (which is financed by Morocco) and other "garbage news" collector like it has been officially denied by the Algerian president. 3) In any case, this article is about the pipeline and not the relations between the countries. M.Bitton (talk) 13:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) My text referred to the information on the closure which was already mentioned in the History above. My second version added more sources, including La Vanguardia. Now I added Jeune Afrique, Le Desk, Maroc Hebdo and others. Therefore, there is no violation of WP:BLP and Jordan mediation efforts are out of question as these media aren't "garbage news". 2) Atalayar was used as reference for a quote. Algerian President's denial was included now. 3) History section is full of politics and pipeline was also closed due to political reasons as already mentioned above. Therefore, latest developments have to be included.--Casatamca (talk) 15:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) You misrepresented a source (this is a fact that you cannot deny). 2) the onus to achieve consensus for the inclusion of such baseless speculation about living people is on you. 3) I suggest you refrain from edit warring. M.Bitton (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * do you really think it was a good idea to ignore the above comment and revert again? M.Bitton (talk) 16:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) No, there are many sources for the fact that the pipeline was closed due to tensions between Algeria and Morocco. 2) There are many international sources on the Jordanian mediation efforts to reopen the pipeline. So these are no baseless speculations. You added no source for your claim. 3) I suggest you refrain from removing sourced content from this article.--Casatamca (talk) 16:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I gave you time to finish your answer. You didn't.--Casatamca (talk) 16:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) I repeat: you misrepresented a source (this is a fact that you cannot deny). 2) Baseless speculations about living people are not accepted (this is an encyclopedia, not some crappy newspaper). 3) You're not making any sense ("giving me time" for what exactly?). M.Bitton (talk) 16:40, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I announce an answer here on the talk page and you reverted me without granting time to publish the answer. That's not making any sense. Obviously you have no interest in considering other's arguments.--Casatamca (talk) 16:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I also repeat, there are multiple sources for circumstances of closure and Jordanian mediation efforts, a fact that you cannot deny. Therefore, no misrepresentation. 2) Your provide no source for your claim these being baseless speculations. Just your personal oppinion.--Casatamca (talk) 16:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You were supposed to seek consensus for your change and not edit war (so don't try to justify the unjustifiable). Are you still denying that you misrepresented a source? M.Bitton (talk) 16:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Which of the content you reverted wasn't supported by the 11 sources I had added? Casatamca (talk) 20:17, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You can't just ignore the question that I asked you and expect me to answer yours. I repeat: Are you still denying that you misrepresented a source? M.Bitton (talk) 21:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * For my first text I chose only two sources which was not enough, I added more text and nine more sources. Therefore, there was no misrepresentation of any source. Casatamca (talk) 22:18, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Here's the diff that shows how you misrepresented a source by attributing They discussed bilateral relations and tensions between Algeria and Morocco since the Maghreb-Europe Gas Pipeline was closed in October 2021. to a Jordanian source that says no such thing. The fact that you're still denying it is worrisome and leads me to believe that your other edits need to be checked. I' done wasting my time. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You're not answering my question which of the text you've deleted wasn't supported by sources and instead accuse me of misrepresenting a source, when I just made a wrong choice and corrected this later. I don't know why you want to avoid any mention of Jordanian mediation efforts. But you're right, enough time wasted. Casatamca (talk) 22:50, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Since you have difficulty admitting your mistake (assuming that's what it was), I will keep repeating it: you misrepresented a source.
 * Since you like repetition: this is an encyclopedia, not some crappy newspaper. M.Bitton (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2023 (UTC)