Talk:Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi

Excel Connection?
"Some may view it as Gainax's response to Excel Saga, as it is a Parody Anime. It features many cultural references to movies, games and anime, amongst other things."

This is very unlikely, as Excel Saga was not popular enough to warrant that kind of responce. There just happened to be a surge in parody anime at the time. I would like to see some proof behind that claim. [unsigned]

Completely off-topic, but
Whoever thought of calling a TV show by this name needs to have their Japanese-English dictionary confiscated. --Kiand 07:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It actually makes sense, which is really creepy. The Abenobashi "shopping arcade" is magical and takes them to different worlds. 00:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What does 'Abenobashi' translate as? (Yes, I know it's the geographical name, but I'm wondering if it means anything in particular.) CFLeon 02:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Abenobashi means Abe's bridge, a reference to Abe no Sami, who was a real and influential mystic in the Kyoto area in the Heinen era. [unsigned]
 * I realize I'm two years late in replying to this, but "Abenobashi" is an area in Osaka just south of Tennoji Station and adjacent to Osaka Abenobashi Station. It is, in turn, named after the bridge over the JR tracks just west of the aforementioned Tennoji Station. As far as is known, it is not named after Abe no Seimei, though certainly the man himself existed. Abenobashi doesn't actually have a shopping arcade named after it, though there are certainly plenty of shopping districts in that area, at least one of which (Abeno Ginza) has been severely gutted by the development of high-rise buildings around it in the past 10-15 years. The breakdown of the older city structure with the increasing redevelopment of the Tennoji-Abenobashi area may actually have served as an inspiration for the series, though I don't know if that's on record anywhere. --Julian Grybowski (talk) 14:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
I just added an infobox, added cleanup tags, and would like some help rewriting the article to put the information in the article into the infobox. Any help would be appreciated. Alex 20:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The current article's plot summary contains too much detail; I added the appropriate template. I think I'll take a try at reducing it in size, but thought it would be good to see how other contributors to this article feel. --Starwed 10:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Obviously I never got around to this. :) But since I have some spare time between summer/fall semester, why not now?  I plan on drastically reducing the length of the plot summary; does anyone have objections to this?  --Starwed 03:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Ending - speculation
I beleive the very question of the "altered" Abenobashi being real is meaningless. Abe himself shrugged off the question of "reality" with some contempt in old Kyoto. However, it is most certain that it's not a "hobby world" in the sense that the previous ones were. It's no longer a projection of Sasshi's childish fantasies - it's a sane world created in selfless thought where the wishes of both Mune and Arumi have been granted. In that sense, it's an adult world created by an adult Sasshi, and the proper result of the ultimate fate-changing spell. Wilderns 16:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It's like how Abeno was able to change "reality" and have Masa and Mune live, there shouldn't be such a connect to 'one original universe, all others being alternates- impostors' - there are just different versions, because on the idea of infinite parallel universes Sasshi could have created any world he wanted and be correct, it's just that he didn't have the skill to do it, so Abeno intervened and let the skillful adult Sasshi do the work that the Young Sasshi wanted. In the end they live in what is essentially a modified 'hobby world', but with everything completely the same except the obvious changes: Masa-jii never having the accident, Mune having her wish come true, Arumi not knowing what happened (?),--- that is what's different.


 * But did the business on Hokkaido transfer change? We don't know. It could have been destined to always "fall through", it all depends on the span of time between Masa-jii -not falling- and the last scene at the end of the show, if it was later that day, the Hokkaido outcome was affected, if it was days later, it was still left up to reality. But then we all have to think back, Abe's changes in the background of the story may have already created another universe, so Arumi and Sasshi were never born or lived in the real universe where Masa and Mune and Abeno all live and die a thousand years prior. Essentially the whole gimmick of MSAA is that the mystics could create and visit any alternate universe that they wanted, and on the law of infinite opportunities in infinite universes, anything could happen, with only Sasshi's overactive imagination driving them to one 'hobby world' or another. TiE23 (talk) 04:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Title
Unless the policy has changed, shouldn't this be Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi, without the star? Exploding Boy 05:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * In answer to my own question, yes. The page has therefore been moved in accordance with WP:NAME.  Exploding Boy 07:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Abridged Version?
In my version, which is a two disc series, possibly an import as all text is Japanese, during the hong-kong episode there is a part where a screen comes up and says "the rest has been abridged" Is this specific to this possible Japanese version, or is it in the US release as well. My version has all the basics, 13 episodes, dual language, subtitles, a couple of extras, but it's just killing me that I don't know what's going on. [unsigned]
 * I'm pretty sure that's in the US version as well; it's just supposed to indicate that whatever is happening takes way too long to show. (Isn't it during the part spoofing DragonballZ?  And of course that show tends to draw out fight scenes for a while. :) ) --Starwed 06:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay yeah that makes since, since I just found out what abridged means. Thank you. BioYu-Gi! 18:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Am I the Only One?
Am I the only one who sees a correlation between Mune's name and her ridiculously big boobs? [unsigned]
 * No, it's meant to be obvious. CFLeon 04:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Network = Kids Station, Demographic = Seinen
That makes no sense. --IguanarayD: —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 16:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, it does. See Kids Station's ANN entry.--Nohansen 17:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 13:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This seems to have been taken care of. :) --Starwed 19:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Episode Summary?
Does anyone think that an episode summary list(a short one) should be created?--AKIRA70 (talk) 18:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I think so, it wouldn't be very difficult, also, a manga-anime comparison and a manga chapter guide would also be a great idea. TiE23 (talk) 04:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

This is depressing - The fate of the real Shopping Arcade
So after spending a lot of time finding out where exactly the spiritual equivalent of Sasshi and Arumi's Abenobashi Shopping Aracde is on Google Earth, I think I finally found it at [34°38'46.11"N 135°30'42.92"E] As viewed by Google Maps - When viewed by Google Earth it's got a covered walk way just like the show, with some vacant lots around it. So I then found a great photo of the covered walkway here: and here: ... then a larger picture of the entire area, showing that the Arcade that the show was based off of has since been almost completely leveled in recent times. As you can see here:

I dunno, it is sort of depressing to see that this kind of thing really was destroyed, it's little things like that that get to me. TiE23 (talk) 08:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * photo 1 and 3 are broken links, this is depressing too :/ --Lo&#39;oris (talk) 11:24, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Yamaga
"This was not originally a comic book. In fact, this was a story that I wrote 10 years ago. This has been sitting around, not turning into anything. Now it has turned into a TV series.	Originally, it was based somewhere in the deep mountains of Finland, whether or not there are actually mountains in Finland. It is supposed to be out in the boonies of Finland and was set about a thousand years ago. It was about a group of boys who had decided that they wanted to become magicians and they go around studying [magic]. That was what the original story was about.	For a TV series, that seemed to be a little bit on the bland side, so we got a script writer who has worked on a lot of flashy animation. Since then, the setting of the story became Osaka in modern Japan, in a place called Abenobashi, which actually exists.	If you know something about Japan, then you'll realize that people from Osaka speak a particular dialect and it's distinctive. If you hear it then you know automatically that someone is from Osaka. For this series, we wanted to portray a true Osaka dialect, so we got voice actors who were originally from Osaka. So translation is going to be very difficult. So far, 4 episodes have been aired in Japan. We plan on making 13 episodes and that will be the end of the series. [Ed note: There is a manga, drawn by Kenji Tsuruta, which is being serialized in Kodansha's Afternoon.]"

http://web.archive.org/web/20031205021525/http://anime-tourist.com/article.php?sid=298 --Gwern (contribs) 22:40 13 August 2011 (GMT)

Arumi's voice
It's strange that Arumi is from Japan but the heavy accent to her english voice sounds like she's from the southern United States. To me it sounds like somewhere in Georgia. Herogamer (talk) 19:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hopefully in the last 9 years you found this out yourself, but it's tradition to dub Kansai-ben as a Texas accent. So many dubbing houses are in Texas, and Osaka people are supposed to sound like energetic hicks. They're very yeehaw and rootin'-tootin' types, you see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.94.57.191 (talk) 03:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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