Talk:Magnezone

Jibacoil
Is Jibacoil japanese or english? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Honeymane (talk • contribs). -- M C Y 1008 23:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's the romanization of the Japanese name.


 * I thought that Jibacoil IS the Japanese name... Im probably wrong... SHUCKLE MAN —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.148.112.16 (talk) 17:54, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

-- M C Y 1008 18:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The Japanese name is ジバコイル. Jibacoil is the romanization of that.

Magnufo
Look, it's called Magnufo alrightダイノーズ 16:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Not alright. PROVE IT. We don’t put rumors and wishful thinking in the Wikipedia. Google searches for “Magnufo” only bring up a bunch of forum posts where people suggest/predict it as the English name. But as any idiot can see, that does not make it even close to being official. You keep saying Nintendo has announced it. If that’s the case, prove it. Provide a link, or a picture, or cite a magazine, or SOMETHING. --WikidSmaht (talk) 20:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with WikidSmaht! Please cite your sources or stop vandalising Jibacoil's article!Floramage! 21:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * sigh* Cite sources! Until then, it will be considered vandalism.LuGiADude 11:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

English Name: Magnezone
Seribii revealed early this morning that this creature has been dubbed Magnezone. So, let's get moving again!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NP Chilla (talk • contribs) 09:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Shouldn't we treat it like speculation? BlackxxJapan 09:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * True in theory, but whenever Seribii reveals a new name, we change these pages to the same name on the side of caution (after all, they've never been wrong yet!) - NP Chilla 09:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not true, NP. Neorant hasn't been changed, and consensus is not to use Serebii's english names. -Jeske (v^_^v) 13:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Neorant's page HAS been changed, so this should be also, 86.137.2.183 14:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. You see, Jeske, every other article has had its name changed to fit with the Seribii revelations when appropriate; this is because Mantyke, Chatot, Buizel, Electivire and the starters were predicted absolutely. You're right about consensus, but it DOES look odd when you think that this is the only article where the name hasn't changed!! - NP Chilla 18:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That's 'cause we haven't gotten about to reverting it yet. x.x —M_C_Y_1008 (talk/contribs) 20:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

All names are now released.--User:Rat235478683--
 * Rat, please refrain from breaking the flow. And, by WHOM are they released?  PokeExperto has been exposed as an affiliate of Serebii, and no fansite will satisfy WP:ATT.  -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * And I just moved my example back. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Its English name IS Magnezone. It has been confirmed by the new Diamond & Pearl edition of the Pokemon Trading Card Game. Scroll down a little and take a look:


 * http://www.pokebeach.com/index.php


 * This may be a long shot, but I guess this pretty much confirms all of the other 4th gen Pokemon names. Why would someone go so far as to make up a large list of names? Seems like a huge waste of time to me. NeoSeifer

Keep this article at Jibacoil.
Until a reliable source confirms that it is Magnezone, this stays at Jibacoil. Serebii doesn't exactly have a good rep with WP:PCP at the moment. Funpika 18:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So, off to work on nearly every other 4th-gen Pokemon article? 81.132.183.220 20:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

naw, i think we should turn it to magnezone. i already did, and serebii still has to be proven wrong about the name.--chaosemeraldking 20:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes but I won't be happy until they are proven RIGHT. That is what matters. My logic is "wrong until proven right". Nintendo should make an offical confirmation before this article is switched to Magnezone (providing it is the name). Funpika 21:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC))
 * Chaosemeraldking, you need to bone up on Attribution. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The reported name should still be mentioned, though. It is an easily verifyable fact that the name has been REPORTED (though not confirmed).  68.34.228.213 22:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/n07_0319_dpcard008lg.jpg Here's your reliable source!  Move to Magnezone, plz. Feats-O-Strength 00:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Cards can easily be faked. Got a link to the page that hosts the image (rather than the image itself)? -Jeske (v^_^v) 13:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/ Right on the front page....Just know I'm not taking any side, it's just more information that needs to be represented.—ウルタプ 13:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've seen the images, but it's hard to tell if someone PhotoShopped them. This is why I prefer examing print cards to see if they're fakes.  I can't tell. -Jeske (v^_^v) 13:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

At the bottom of the page are four links; one of which is an official site which will not have full information of the Fourth Generation pokemon at any point (but WILL have the names at some point after Diamond/Pearl are released); the other three are all unofficial (serebii.net, Psypoke, Bulbapedia) websites that list Jibacoil as Magnezone.
 * http://pokebeach.com/ has pictures of the new Diamond and Pearl cards that were shown in a press release. One of the cards is Magnezone. Zaver 19:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * What's wrong, Jeske? Are you in denial or something? This card (and the other ones, as well) aren't fake. Magnezone is this Pokemon's name. NeoSeifer

Evolution at Tengan
What is the source for the evolutionary method? Unless a reliable english source has provided information on the Diamond/Pearl games (which, not being out yet, is impossible), there is no way for that information to be offical (serebii.net and other sites that translate information and, in fact, were likely the sources of most information on the Pokemon articles being unverified) or verified. Unless, of course, such knowledge is common (Rarecoil could evolve into Jibacoil through the stated method while Magneton evolves into 'Magnezone' through a new stone programmed into the english version only), anything can be denied. In fact, according to the WP:ATT, 'if an article has no reliable sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on it.' Therefore, pages based soley or majorly on fansite information (such as most Diamond/Pearl Pokemon pages) should be deleted. Unless there is an official source that states the name is in fact Jibacoil, that it is in fact Electric/Steel (I doubt that the Japanese types have the same names), the article should not even exist (which would change when Pokemon Diamond/Pearl come out in April and information is freely available). In fact, due to the nature of the internet and knowledge in general, no material could be considered truly veritable truth (which, though not the focus of Wikipedia, is the general destination of seeking knowledge, as being consistantly being told that the sky is purple on our planet in our dimension is verified but easily false, and would not be accepted in Wikipedia). The fact is, Wikipedia itself is, in essence, a massive fansite. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.228.71.226 (talk) 00:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Ah, so the Battle of the Bulge has a bunch of screaming fans? -Jeske (v^_^v) 17:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As do all wars. In fact, my own father is a large war movie fan, and would love to watch a video on the Battle of the Bulge.  I, however, dislike such films due to the horrors of the sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gigawolf1 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC).