Talk:Magtymguly Pyragy/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 22:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 22:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)



Observations

 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * Infobox has 19 links. MOS:INFOBOX says, inter alia, the purpose of an infobox: to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article. Much of the material in the infobox links ought be in the article itself. See WP:INFOBOXREF.
 * There are two archived discussions on this matter, references and External links in the Infobox. References should be in the body of the article.


 * A key issue here with this infobox is that the material is not repeated in the article. See WP:V ✅


 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * Biography section Early life and education needs to give biographical information that is in the infobox. ✅
 * References 11, 18 and 29, Gollanma have many links to trojan websites. Consider using an archived version. ✅
 * There is an amount of minor overlinking in Early life and education. ✅
 * The sense is that steppes, Persian and Arabic languages, madrassah and Bukhara do not need linking; these are common terms not essential for understanding the article. ✅
 * Ditto linking to elegies, Russian Empire, Arabic script. If Magymguly lived from c1724-c1807, it is difficult to understand the need for a link to the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. ✅
 * Reference 34 appears to go to a home page and not any specific article. ✅
 * References 31, 36, 55, 56, 57, 61, 68, 71 do not follow MOS for references. ✅


 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * "Türkmeniň" (in three languages) is a good inclusion and adds to the veracity of this poet and his love for his motherland.
 * Reference 49 is a good, explanatory link.
 * This article claims that Magtymguly is a naqshbandi sufi. Notwithstanding destruction of records, there is nothing in the article to substantiate this, nor give overview of Magtymguly's religious or spiritual views.


 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * Is this really a good translation? Turkic language references farthings?


 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * Article created on 6 July 2004;
 * 175 editors have made 325 edits to this page;
 * The Guild of Copy Editors has been over the page and completed copyedits;
 * 4697 pageviews in the last 90 days; average of 52 views daily;
 * no evidence of edit-warring observed in history; page considered stable.


 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * Почтовая марка СССР № 5446. 1983. 250-летие со дня рождения Махтумкули.jpg = not an object of copyright according to article 1259 of Book IV of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation No. 230-FZ of December 18, 2006. Copyright free usage accepted.
 * USSR-1991-1ruble-CuNi-Magtymguly-b.jpg = not an object of copyright according to article 1259 of Book IV of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation No. 230-FZ of December 18, 2006.
 * 1959 CPA 2364.jpg = not an object of copyright according to article 1259 of Book IV of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation No. 230-FZ of December 18, 2006.
 * 10 manat. Türkmenistan, 2009 a.jpg = not an object of copyright according to the Civil Code of Turkmenistan of July 17, 1998; Article 1061.
 * KiewMagtymgulyPyragyBüste.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.


 * 1) Overall:
 * A lot of work has gone into this article and much clean-up has taken place over the years. Turkmen, Turkmenistan, and Turkic languages all not being well known, many of the links are good and useful to read.
 * We need to resolve the links and references in the Infobox and get them into the article body proper ✅, and sort the MOS style with the listed references ✅. This article needs some content about Magtymguly's religious views and sufi background.      --Whiteguru (talk) 02:21, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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