Talk:Magu (deity)

Little problems
Wonderful work, but: should 麻姑獻壽 be translated into something like "Ma Gu gives her birthday greetings"? and why does the motif has to do with Journey to the West? Cheers.--K.C. Tang 08:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * K.C. Thanks for the compliment and corrections. I don't remember where I found the Xiyouji reference, so I deleted it. Your help is always appreciated. Best wishes. Keahapana Keahapana 02:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Excessive quoting
There's way too much quoting in this article... I understand the need of quoting translations of historical text, but quoting modern conclusion by modern authors is really stretching it (especially as much as it is now, that is, about half of the article). I would be very inclined to say that it's tip-toeing on the edge of close paraphrasing. --Cold Season (talk) 19:20, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Cold Season. If memory serves, I added most of these quotes. Are you concerned about copyright infringement or narrative style? Please provide some examples of which half of the article. Also, why did you change blockquotes to pull quotes, and can we put wikilinks within quotations? Thanks, Keahapana (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)


 * No, I don't think it's a copyright infringement, because I can clearly see the attribution. I find it unnecessary quoting. This information (table below) could as easily be paraphrased rather than be quoted to such an extend (occasional inline and short quotations, sure... but whole paragraphs is a bit too much). I put them in the format with quotation marks for clarity, because it didn't look like quotes at first glance but rather random jumps in the text. Cheers. --Cold Season (talk) 18:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. It's surprising that you thought blockquotes looked like random jumps, I mistakenly assumed that nearly everyone was familiar with block quotation formatting. However, your format changes will have to be reverted. WP:BQ conventions prohibit using decorative pull quotes and cutesy quotation marks, and WP:LINKSTYLE says, "items within quotations should not generally be linked; instead, consider placing the relevant links in the surrounding text or in the "See also" section of the article". We can disagree about whether there is excessive quoting, but I'm willing to compromise. How about if you close paraphrase several of the first five quotes in the table and we leave the sixth (Needham 154) block quote? The reason I tend to prefer direct quotes is that they accurately represent the original source, which is frequently not the case when one checks WP paraphrasing. Cheers, Keahapana (talk) 23:34, 13 December 2014 (UTC)


 * That's acceptable. I'll follow your suggestion and do it in the future unless someone does it before me. --Cold Season (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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Helen Hwang
The work of Helen Hwang is being given undue weight on this page, including a very long block quote at the beginning. I'll delete the big quote after posting this, but I thought I'd flag this issue up now so people are aware of it. Retinalsummer (talk) 11:28, 20 October 2023 (UTC)