Talk:Mahabodhi Temple

Image description corrected
The image of Mahabodhi Temple now being displayed along with the article has a wrong description - the temple is of bricks and not of stone. Please refer to (http://whc.unesco.org/pg.cfm?cid=31&id_site=1056) of UNESCO, which states as follows: QuoteThe Mahabodhi Temple Complex is one of the four holy sites related to the life of the Lord Buddha, and particularly to the attainment of Enlightenment. The first temple was built by Emperor Asoka in the 3rd century B.C., and the present temple dates from the 5th or 6th centuries. It is one of the earliest Buddhist temples built entirely in brick, still standing in India, from the late Gupta period. UNQUOTE--Bhadani 14:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Further, in all World Heritage sites located in India, the tempalate stands out prominently at the beginning of the article, accordingly the present image is being moved to proper place in the article.--Bhadani 14:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for correcting the information in the image caption. I'm afraid I have to strongly disagree that this page is required to follow the format used in other Indian World Heritage sites. There are 22 other such pages, but there are many, many other pages that follow the format of having an image in the upper right corner. If anything, this page should have a Template:Buddhism box before the World Heritage box. The current format, with the image and template both at the top, is much to crowded.


 * Do whatever you feel is right. My only request is that please avoid reverts which are like vandalism. Thanks.--Bhadani 16:03, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Older remarks
Let us come closer and contribute by making positive edits to improve the article Mahabodhi Temple. I also suggest that persons who are interested in such edits to keep in tocu through the articl's talk page.--Bhadani 13:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I believe that my last edits improved the article. I fixed a lot of English mistakes, removed extraneous information, and fixed some awkward parts. Please do not revert these edits. - Nat Krause 13:58, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I give below my messages to User Nat Krause

QuoteYour nice articles on Buddhism == I saw your nice and informative articles on various topics, pertaining to Buddhism. I am sure to learn from you. As regards Mahabodhi Temple article, original pictures are being arranged from my contacts in Bodh Gaya, and shall be inserted in due course of time. Wish you happy editing.--Bhadani 14:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) PS: Ok I got your message right now on the Mahabodhi Temple discussion page. But, please allow me time till sunday. I will do a "medium path" - I promise and keep everything, which you had done.--Bhadani 14:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)Unquote--Bhadani 14:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I just donot fine the reason for reverting an article to earlier position when the article has passed through several hands. I would request User:Nat Krause to consider all these factors. His reversal has taken down the templete conveying that it is a world heritage site. This is highly awkward. In case, you want to edit the article, it is ok, but always reverting to a particular point of time is against the wiki principles, I feel so. --Bhadani 08:07, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * But ... you reverted to an earlier version when I initially made those changes a couple weeks ago. Wasn't that against the wiki principles? In any event, I didn't just revert to an earlier version: I also included some of the changes that have been made in the meantime (see this difference). Also, I didn't take out the world heritage site template, I just moved it down the page a ways, because the top section was too crowded. - Nat Krause 08:44, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Sure, sir, I did that as at that time, I was hardly 16-day old wiki, not well aware with wiki matters/ I am still in learning mode. But, dear sir Nat Krause, I am sure you are already a learned person and know much more than me about wiki traditions as you are at least 16-month old wiki. Anyway, I would appeal to you at least do some edits to this article as now it has become truncated, after your reverts, apart from having big and small inaccuracies. Please assist in making the article complete. And, for the sake of an image, removing the world heritage template tantamount to redesigning well considered  basic structure of all world heritage related articles of India - I do not feel, people come to wikipedia to see an image only, but to gather information also. It is my appeal that you please edit the article to remove big and bigger  inaccuracies, and complete the missing links, which have arisen due to your reverts.. I am removing at least some obvious inaccuracies, and shall gradually try to edit to improve the article at least to the stage to which it has reached before your present reverts.--Bhadani 16:06, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Still, all I did in this particular revert was to restore some edits I had made before which were removed from the article. As for "big and small inaccuracies", which do you mean? Please point them out and/or fix them yourself. I don't agree, however, with your changing all of the instances "BCE" to "BC". BCE is in fairly common use on Wikipedia, especially when dealing with non-Western subjects. And I did not remove the World Heritage template, I simply moved it down the page a bit. The normal format for Wikipedia articles is to have a picture in the upper right -- besides, isn't the appearance of the temple a type of information about it? - Nat Krause 13:57, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Right perspective
The Act provides that the District Magistrate of Gaya district shall be the ex-officio chairman of the BTMC. It is implied that a District Magistrate may belong to any religious faith: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity and so on - so mentioning his religion against his name is extraneous and gives a wrong impression, and contravenes the spirit of the legal enactment. As such, suitable corrections should be made. --Bhadani 17:10, 3 August 2005 (UTC)


 * On the contrary, the act requires that the chairman of the BTMC must be a Hindu. If the District Magistrate is not a Hindu, he may not hold the position, and someone else must be appointed&mdash;I believe by the state government. - Nat Krause 01:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC) (below is the relevant text from the Bodh Gaya Temple Act of 1949)
 * (2) The Committee shall consist of a Chairman and eight members nominated by the [1] [State] Government, all of whom shall be Indians and of whom four shall be Buddhists and four shall be Hindus including the Mahanth:


 * Provided that if the Mahanth is a minor or of unsound mind or refuses to serve on the committee, another Hindu member shall be nominated in his place.


 * (3) The District Magistrate of Gaya shall be the ex-officio Chairman of the Committee: Provided that the1 [State] Government shall nominate a Hindu as Chairman of the Committee for the period during which the district Magistrate of Gaya is non-Hindu.

Important notice
Experienced users, I feel picture of temple will look better in architecture section. At top, the Buddhist announcement box should be fine. Many many thnxs, --MissingLinks 14:13, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Bell sent from America to Hang in Mahabodhi Temple
http://www.bodhgayanews.net/News2002/2002_03_10.htm

Coordinates
The coordinates need the following fixes: Wrong again, Google Earth says here: {{coord|24.696004°, 84.991358° Thanks 71.155.149.183 (talk) 18:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Write here

Done. BrainMarble (talk) 20:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hindu Presence
There is no mention here of the Hindu occupation of the temple from the 17th century (if memory serves). This is important in understanding the modern history of disputed ownership of the temple, and the mix of people on the temple management committee. Jayarava 10:11, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Update needed
Surfing to this entry after the horrible vandalism earlier this month, I noticed the Bodhi tree controversy section may not have been edited in several years. I was surprised that the Committee as a whole serves a three year term, rather than members, though I was unable to check the cited law. Another citation is needed concerning the Bodhi branch controversy, since I presume the criminal case hasn't hung around for 7 years. Did all the committee members resign en masse? If so, that was a couple of terms ago. Pruning seems reasonable, but any monies clearly should have gone to the temple and not individuals. Just a thought...Jweaver28 (talk) 14:41, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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