Talk:Maheshwari

Concerns with formatting and language
This page is awfully formatted and made, and things which are stories versus the historical bits need to be sorted out. Please fix the grammar so that it at least resembles British or American standard English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.187.161.73 (talk) 20:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Caste-affiliated websites
It has long been accepted at WP:RSN that websites that are operated by advocacy groups are generally reliable only for information about the group itself and not for any statements about that which they are advocating. In addition, there is consensus that, in large part because of issues such as sanskritisation, we do not use caste-affiliated websites as sources. Please do not use them here. - Sitush (talk) 20:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 22:51, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Convert to surname list?
This article is going nowhere in its present form. Nor are Maheshwarism or Maheshwari Mahasabha. It seems to be some sort of minor sect of Hinduism but finding independent reliable sources has been tricky for years. There are numerous people called Maheshwari for whom we have articles, so perhaps re-purpose this as a surname list? - Sitush (talk) 10:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - There's no claim of notability in the article as it stands. Nor are there any independent sources with significant depth . I'm not even sure it rises to the level of minor sect; the external link seems to provide a creation myth for Maheshwari as a surname. Were this an AfD, this would be a Delete !vote. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 10:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I forgot that I did remove this ages ago when Maheshwarism was a blue link. Still, there is little else of note. - Sitush (talk) 10:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Right you are. I misspoke, and amend my previous comment. For mine, there's not a lot to establish notability in that source. I do see the potential for noteworthiness based inclusion at Mahajan; but that's a surname disambig itself. We should also consider the other groups/names which the source identifies: Agrawal, Khandelwal & Oswal; of these, as an article only Agrawal has much in the way of depth. Still support a surname based disambig; with a brief paragraph at the top, similar to Oswal. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 11:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a reasonable compromise. - Sitush (talk) 11:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)and has no encyclopedic value, itz should be deletet!

Deletion
This article is a mess and has no encyclopedic value, it should be deleted! Dan Holsinger (talk) 23:36, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Update
It took a long time but finally, spurred by a proposed deletion, I untangled this thing. In doing so, I note that there may just be enough sources to create an article for the dalit Maheshwari of Sindh etc, although if not then they should certainly get a mention in the Meghwal article.

One contradiction in the sources which I cannot resolve is that of the number of khamps/gotras. I've used the sources that mention the number being 72 simply because there are more of them but a footnote to the Veronique Pache matrimonial article, which currently sits in Further reading, cites p. 168 of Gunter Tiemann's paper here seemingly in support of there being 77 of them. I haven't yet found where it even mentions 77 and wonder if Pache is just citing Tiemann for the general information of the rule, using her own research to state the number and then having that number misprinted. I'm not at all sure what to do here: usually we would mention all reliable sources but there is an exception for obvious misprints. - Sitush (talk) 11:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)