Talk:Major Arena Soccer League

La Raza name
The club has always beeb referred to as the Monterrey La Raza on Wikipedia and in the English language media. In fact, the Wikpedia articles for the La Raza are MONTERREY LA RAZA. It is already noted in those artices that there is a different Spanish name. If the Monterrey La Raza gets changed to "La Raza de Monterrey", then all references to the Montreal Canadiens need to be changed to Les Canadiens de Montreal because that is that club's proper/official name. The precedent on English Wikipedia is that sports teams based in US/Canadian leagues have their names listed in English. There is no need to change that precedent. KitHutch (talk) 17:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I'm proposing that the page Indoor Professional League be merged into the Major Arena Soccer League article. The 3 teams that left the MASL to form the IPL, and the expansion Florida Tropics today have been brought back into the MASL (see here: ). I think that the mention of the IPL and the eventual "reuniting" of these teams may warrant moving the IPL info into this page. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


 * SUPPORT Exactly what Rick said. (Bes2224 (talk) 17:04, 29 August 2016 (UTC))
 * Support For similar reasons, the I-League was merged into the Major Indoor Soccer League page. KitHutch (talk) 18:14, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support, I definitely think there should be an IPL section on this page explaining the schism and merger though. As a brand new Tropics fan, I could not be more confused. American Money (talk) 16:24, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This can't be sourced obviously but the short version is Ed Hale disagreed with how the MASL operated, specifically the single-entity format. He then created the IPL as a sort of "calling the bluff" of the MASL. Both groups negotiated and the teams returned yesterday, with the MASL changing to a franchise model, where each team owner is responsible for their team.. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:32, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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Kitsap Pumas
I don't recall the Kitsap Pumas ever being in the PASL-Pro and I am having a hard time trying to find any evidence they played in the league. Am I just forgetting them or did they never play in the league? (Bes2224 (talk) 01:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC))

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Status of MASL and PASL
Back when the former MISL teams joined the PASL back in 2014, it was announced as if the MISL teams joined the PASL and the PASL changed its name. Why are we now doing revisionist history and saying the MASL is a new league?KitHutch (talk) 21:03, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I haven’t paid any attention on whether the MISL Joined the PASL, the other way, or if to MASL was a new league... until now. Reviewing the news achieves at oursportscental.com for May 2014 it appears it was true marger with no one former league absorbing the other. More teams from the PASL may have been involved but I believe the MASL is a separate league from the PASL, unless there are other achieved articles that says otherwise. Unfortunately, the links in the article indicating a simple name change are now broken. Straykat99 (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Jeff MASL keeps changing the article to indicate that the MASL has no connection to the PASL. However, the following article states, "What does seem to have been accomplished is changing the name of the Professional Arena Soccer League to the Major Arena Soccer League." KitHutch (talk) 20:56, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Another article that states the MASL was a renamed PASL, "Tanner and other league owners met in Baltimore this weekend to start finalizing plans for the 2014-15 season. The new group is a mix of six teams that bolted the MISL after last season — Syracuse, Rochester, Baltimore, Milwaukee, St. Louis and Missouri — and carryovers from the league formerly known as the Professional Arena Soccer League. KitHutch (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

In short I agree with KitHutch. If MASL and PASL were different, then a new MASL page would have been started and the PASL page would still exist. Any idea of them being separate leagues is revisionist history. (Bes2224 (talk) 18:38, 10 July 2018 (UTC))

Found another article that said that MISL teams joined to the PASL. I will link it in the main article.

Defunct vs. proposed teams
There is a considerable difference between a proposed team which never actually took the field and a defunct team which did so for a time but no longer does, and it would be better if they were in separate tables. 2600:1004:B161:17EF:0:57:E65C:DD01 (talk) 21:47, 19 January 2022 (UTC)