Talk:Make believe

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Sbrugnera Snatcher
A Google search on "Sbrugnera Snatcher" turns up zero hits (with or without the quotes), though "Sbrugnera" by itself turns up as a surname. I conclude that it's non-notable. Emurphy42 04:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Docter "the main aim"?
I think that its very worng to see that as the main aim.Can I please remove it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.190.240 (talk) 00:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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Removed a paragraph due to zero punctuation and non PV material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.241.212 (talk) 01:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Rename to "Make believe"?
The best title for this article would be "Make believe", as that is the term commonly used to refer to children's role-playing games. "Let's pretend" is another name, but I think "Make believe" is more commonly understood and reads more like an encyclopedic title. The current title seems very awkward. Ryan Paddy (talk) 08:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved to Make believe Mike Cline (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Children& → Cowboys and Indians –This article seems to focus more on Cowboys and Indians, then any other Children's game.-- --Relisted JHunterJ (talk) 16:56, 15 May 2012 (UTC) Breawycker (talk to me!) 20:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Split this article was rewritten from the generic to focus on cowboys and indians last year. So this article should be reverted to the pre C&I version, and the C&I content should be moved off. 70.49.124.225 relisted --Mike Cline (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC) (talk) 04:13, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I restored this article to reflect children role playing games. This move discussion should be closed, but there still might be an article about whether or not tot make a Cowboys and Indians page. JDDJS (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Move to Make believe. The current disambiguated article title is very awkward, and not consistent with the WP:TITLE policy. "Make believe" (or "Make-believe") is the most commonly used term in both lay and academic discussion of children's games of pretend. See The House of Make-Believe, Child's Play: Myth, Mimesis and Make-Believe, Make-believe play: Wellspring for development of self-regulation, etc. The term "make-believe" is sometimes used in reference to other topics, but always with the implication of "childish" pretend play. "Roleplay" is often used in reference to structured games initiated by adults with children as educational tools, as opposed to the "let's have a tea party" or "let's play cops and robbers" style of make-believe play often initiated by children, which this article describes. While the existing article is kind of a weak list of the best-known children's games of make-believe, there is a wealth of academic research on pretend play in general that could inform an excellent article, because make believe is an important area of study in developmental psychology. Ryan Paddy (talk) 20:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment "Make believe" is definitively a better title than the current one, but that would also require moving Make Believe to Make Believe (disambiguation). Perhaps something like Make believe (children's games) would be better? JDDJS (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Make Believe (capital B) would not have to be moved to move this to Make believe (lowercase b). See also Red Meat/Red meat and WP:PRECISION. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:56, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


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The redirect of cowboys and indians makes no sense
I searched for 'cowboys and indians' and it has redirected me to 'make believe'. These are two entirely different concepts. 'Cowboys and indians' is a specific game where children pretend to shoot / fire arrows at each other whereas 'make believe' covers any pretend concept. Why on earth were they merged. I think 'cowboys and indians' needs a separate page for the reason i've given Rcclh (talk) 14:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Cowboys and Indians is a type of make believe game. It has not been shown to be notable enough to have it's own article. If you think that you can get enough reliable sources to make a decent article on just Cowboys and Indians, go ahead and give it a shot, but don't be surprised if it ends been deleted. JDDJS (talk) 15:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes it's a type of make believe game, and Cheddar is a type of Cheese but no-one would attempt to redirect Cheddar to Cheese. I would suggest it's notable enough for its own article. I think i can say with some confidence that millions of people know what it is. I'll start looking for some sources. Rcclh (talk) 10:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that Cowboys & Indians is sufficiently notable to have its own article. However, as the parent topic Make believe is the right place for Cowboys and Indians to redirect to until an article is written for Cowboys and Indians, with suitable reliable sources to demonstrate its notability. This whole area of childhood games is poorly covered by Wikipedia. I guess this subject doesn't interest editors enough to receive serious editing. Ryan Paddy (talk) 02:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Editing Outline
Hi! I'm a student from Northeastern University and I've been assigned to adjust and add content to this article. My plan so far is to define pretend play from a scientific approach. I will be adding content from 5 literature reviews, ranging from 1981 to 2015. I will expand the article by adding several sections such as components of pretend play and influencing factors. I intend on making these changes and finalizing them within the 5th and 8th of April. Feel free to leave any feedback comments related to the changes. Karmastaji (talk) 20:44, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your work on this article, it's really transformed it in a positive way. Thanks also to your university for including Wikipedia editing in their coursework. Ryan Paddy (talk) 21:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)