Talk:Malar rash

Proposed merge with Lupus erythematosus

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no merge. Skeezix1000 00:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The symptom deserves its own article as a dematologic condition.  The rash alone does not define SLE -- a person needs to have 4 out of the 11 criteria. Nephron  T|C 00:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose. IMHO FWIW MartinGugino 00:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose. I found it via the link when viewing SLE, I think it should remain separate music6 13:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


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Picture
Please pus a real picture of the rash. It is very important for people to see the actual condition, not an artist interpretation (Lupus is deadly) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.193.67 (talk) 09:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

A picture would be helpful. --Savant13 15:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hell no. Whenever I click a link to a disease page on wikipedia I look at the page first without glasses (prescription -10, crippling short sightedness is an advantage sometimes) to avoid disgusting pictures. Pictures of skin conditions are the worst.

A picture would only be acceptable if it were behind a link (ie not visible unless you actually want to see it) and with a red warning (ie "GRAPHIC") Communisthamster 23:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a rash, not a gruesome injury or parasitic infestation or surgery. A picture would indeed be helpful. 206.21.160.136 00:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, I'm came here solely to look at a picture. Dannysjgdf (talk) 18:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree. This artist's impression of a malar rash is useless at best and does little to provide useful information. The malar rash in SLE is due to photosensitivity and UV damage. The "malar rash" in the illustration doesn't make any sense at all. It does not correspond to the regions on the model's face that light would hit. The model is pretty, but the illustration is completely arbitrary. If you google "malar rash" and look at actual patients, you'll see that their rashes look nothing like this illustration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.52.182.136 (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Trivia section: If Seal's facial scars are indeed a result from lupus, as the entry claims, then the picture is already there in the respective link and post. The question is finding a good illustration for the early stages of the rash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.41.187 (talk) 16:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Is this a same as "malar flush"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malar_flush — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.219.174.206 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Malar Rash caused by yeast infection
There is a yeast infection caused by malassezia fufur (aka m.fufur) and/or malassezia globasa (aka m.globosa) which presents similarly to the butterfly rash found in LUPUS. Some may see this as dandruff but frequently it can be found wherever sebum output is high, ie.head, chest, groin, back, particularly in adolescence. It can continue thru adulthood and may even worsen in aging without treatment in cases where sebum output remains high.

Treatment includes isopropyl alcohol (70% solution) using a wash cloth to gently emulsify the sebum and remove yeast colonies which can grow tremendously in 24 hours. Frequent showers (2x/day) are helpful, esp.when humidity and heat are high in the summer months. 3% hydrogen peroxide is also effective, but both the alcohol and the Hydrogen Peroxide MUST be removed by showering or the skin will be burned, causing what appears to be peeling skin from sunburn.

Patients who suspect that their crusty skin may be caused by excessive sebum and concurrent yeast infection should also be investigated for Dysautonomia by a doctor expert in autoimmune-type diseases.Charley sf (talk) 00:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)