Talk:Malayan Communist Party

Name
It should be CPM. Communist Party of Malaya


 * I agree. Apparently it was officially called as the CPM, but often known as the MCP.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Nomenclature: Brief note. MCP is fine. The name change to CPM came after the first Emergency, and is not appropriate for pre-1960. One solution would be to note the name change somewhere. I deal with this briefly in Karl Hack, 'The Long March to Peace of the Malayan Communist Party in Southern Thailand', in M. Montesanto and Patrick Jory eds, Thai South and Malay North: Ethnic Interactions on a Plural Peninsula (Singapore: NUS Publishing, 2008), pp. 173-200. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kahack (talk • contribs) 10:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, it would be interesting to see the evidence of this because MCP seems to be used by the enemies of the party, not the party itself. The normal nomeclature for Communist Parties was to have the country last, e.g., CPSU, CPUSA, CPA. I think the general idea was to express internationalism: the parties operated in specific countries but did not represent them, and welcomed people of other nationalities, e.g. Lai Teck, Bela Kun, Ho Chi Minh in France.  Incidentally, the ASIO files for the Communist Party of Australia (CPA) routinely call it the ACP.  There seems to be a pattern here, but I don't have a reasonable explanation.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * And why is it "fine" to use a name that wasn't used by the party for most of its life, but "not appropriate" to use a name that was?--Jack Upland (talk) 20:15, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Restructure
The obvious way to shorten the article is to move most of the material on the Emergency into the Emergency article, leaving the section here as only a summary. The more political MCP-focussed belongs here. This would be a major exercise.

I have tried to move some information on Lai Te(ck) to his article. However, much of it is important here.

On the other hand, the article needs a summary of developments post-1960, so I have created a section to deal with this -- mainly by pulling together existing info.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem, however, is that much of the material here is not duplicated elsewhere. The Emergency article largely deals with it from a military and British point of view.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I have condensed all sections, but it needs more work. While the length of the article is obviously a problem, I think it is unfair to claim there are no citations. There are a lot.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Does MCP contributes in Malayan independence effort ?
The answer is wrong. Although Chin Peng claims it during to his retirement and his obituary stating that MCP contributes Malayan independence, it's arguably that this fact is correct or it just merely some baseless claims. MCP isn't literally just claiming independence, it's also trying to make sure that Marxism-Leninisme ideaology stood in Malayan during gruesome Malayan Emergency era as per described in their manifesto. With that, many people would questioning their ulterior motives in their cause. Is it merely to claim independence or it's just a political move to sweep away right wing cause that trying to claim it peacefully ? Cbrn96soul (talk) 17:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, it's proven that MCP trying to sabotage the declaration of Federated Malay State ceremony at the night before 31 August 1957. You can search for this info at Arkib Negara. Links will be provided by me as soon I get the source, as I forgot where the source of the information. Cbrn96soul (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)