Talk:Malaysia–Syria relations

deletion of well source information, 23 Jan
Thanks to the editors who improved this article earlier on today. A couple of points may benefit from discussion. As this is English Wikipedia it seems reasonable to assume most wont recognise any tautology with the title "King Yang di-Pertuan Agong" - and this title is often used in English sources. It seems useful to keep the term King so that readers immediately know we're talking about a head of state. The fact relations were enhanced significantly in the 21st century doesnt rely on the government source, it can also be supported by almost all the independent ones. Its not "gratuitous colouring" to say the Syrian elite began to send their children to Malaysia for education - this seems to be a matter of fact and its supported by sources. The sources even directly interrupt this, and the general eastwards shift, as a direct result of the Western sanctions imposed on Syria. In the interests of collegiality, can we please try to avoid gratuitously using derogative words like gratuitous in edit summaries? FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * On the two points that remain problematic:
 * "King Yang di-Pertuan Agong" is completely non-sensical. Use one or the other. It makes it sound like "Yang di-Pertuan Agong" is the King's name. The wikilink to "Yang di-Pertuan Agong" more than suffices to explain to the reader what the title means.
 * You cannot rely one a government source for a statement like "Relations have been friendly from the start, with ties becoming significantly closer in the 21st Century." The statement is commentary; the source is not independent. As for the other sources, I see nothing in the Asia Times article that could support the dual claim that "Relations have been friendly from the start" and "ties becoming significantly closer in the 21st Century".
 * The gratuitous colouring was "have even began", which is now gone, so that is fine. --Mkativerata (talk) 18:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Needs updating
Needs updating to reflect the effects of the Syrian uprising... AnonMoos (talk) 15:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)