Talk:Maleficent

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Who is going around challenging notability of what seem to be random disney character articles? And why are they not giving reasons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.125.84.175 (talk) 05:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Me again. I notice that "Sleeping Beauty" has NO other character articles. Since even Geppetto's CAT Figaro has a character article, I think this makes this one notable in itself. "Sleeping Beauty" is one of very few Disney movies where the villain seems more memorable than the heroes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.125.84.188 (talk) 11:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

There is a horrible amount of spelling errors in the "Kingdom Hearts Series" sub-section of this article. It should be cleaned up. Honestly, how do you misspell "memory"? --Sfida 18:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

This article is too emotional:

"will arguably be treasured by fans for a long time to come" - where's the evidence?


 * I've removed the offending statement. --Apostrophe 01:02, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.167.58.37 (talk • contribs).

Isn't "maleficent" literally "bad-doing"?

Might want to merge
You might want to merge details from the article to Sleeping Beauty (1959 film), since some of the information that is here is there. -- SNIyer12 (talk), 04:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Possible Survival in Kingdom Hearts series
I saw that my edit suggesting her survival has been reverted. Why is it not valid? Maleficent has shown herself to be more competent (if not more powerful) than Pete, and there is no doubt that she survived.198.137.26.152 16:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Maleficent's own biography section
I think we should add a section on Maleficent's life and activities during Sleeping Beauty, because most of her spinoff appearances show what she was doing then, so I think it's fair that her appearance in the film gets it's own section in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Themeparkfanatic (talk • contribs).

when does maelificent turn into a will o the wisp
who removed this from the board, why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.167.58.37 (talk • contribs).

She turns into a glowing orb of green energy when she leads Aurora through the castle's secret corridors to the spinning wheel. While this isn't explicitly stated to be a will o the wisp, it basically is one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.97.140 (talk) 05:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

What The!?...
Why is Maleficent listed under these categories ( Fictional bats | Fictional porcupines | Fictional bears | Fictional beetles | Fictional mountain lions | Fictional tigers | Fictional wolves)?! I don't even recall her even turning into a bat or a porcupine, or a bear, or a beetle, or a mountain lion, or a tiger, or even a wolf in any media that she has appeared in that i saw/researched (by any media, i mean the sleeping beauty series and the kingdom hearts series). the only animal that she ever transformed into that I recall is the Dragon. so can someone explain why she is listed under these? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.32.238.124 (talk • contribs).

Uh, because some dumbass wants to act like a fucking idiot who deserves to get his throaght slit. I'll change it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.115.34.186 (talk • contribs).
 * Whoa, watch it. No personal attacks!  Powers T 14:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

ah, no, it happened again. some jerk (possibly the same one who labeled her under the previous false category list.) now labeled her under fictional sharks, fictional cattle, fictional mice and rats, and fictional snakes, and not to mention the return of fictional bats, fictional beetles and fictional wolves. I didn't count fictional crows since it is most likely referring to her pet crow, diablo. But still, who ever is placing her under categories she does not have any relations to would probably be written up! So please stop it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.32.238.124 (talk • contribs).

One More Before I Go. Actually, I Think he (or She) meant like that she's a shape shifter, A Cosmic Being. Maleficent is associated with all of them. She's Powerfull, You Guys Are Wrong. All Are.


 * Nowhere has it been shown she is a shapeshifter. Turning into a dragon through magic can be considered as such maybe, but that is the only creature we see her change in, so I dont consider her a general shapeshifter. Further, being a shapeshifter doesn't mean she should be listed under every possible fictional creature. - Redmess (talk) 14:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Main Maleficent Picture
I know it's not a major thing, but could someone with the Sleeping Beauty DVD get a better screenshot of Maleficent and Diablo? The current one is so dark that it's hard to see either of them, and there are many other better shots in the film (such as her first appearance at the beginning) which would make for a more impressive picture. - LainEverliving LainEverloving 05:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

In response, I have a much better and clearer picture of the two of them together in the castle audience hall, so I'll upload that in place. It is smaller resolution-wise, but I believe it's decent enough to serve as a visual reference. - DJ Firewolf 03:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

What happened to the goons?
Okay, I know Maleficent got slain in the heart, and I know that Diablo got turned to stone but what happened to the goons? I haven't seen the whole movie for a long time so could someone tell me? 68.164.90.200 00:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

They're last seen when Prince Philip is fleeing Maleficent's castle, so presumably they're still around (since Philip didn't kill any of them at all). They're simply leaderless - and really, their fate is almost totally irrelevant to the movie's plot, which is why it isn't addressed directly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.97.140 (talk) 05:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

A Deleted Scene showed the Castle Collapsing, so They might have all died, if that's still canon.

Pale skinned?
I almost changed this, but then figured I ought to get some input: she's currently described as 'pale skinned', which isn't entirely false, but she's really a pale green, as opposed to pale but flesh coloured, like all the other human/fairy characters in the film. I propose changing the current descriptor to 'pale green-skinned' - anyone object? 210.11.130.234 (talk) 03:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, she is clearly intended as being pale-green. - Redmess (talk) 14:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * There is one website that claims she was supposed to be dead-white, but came out pale green by accident. I don't know how this was possible. I'm more interested has to how her voice echoes in scenes where the other characters don't. Did Eleanor Audley record her dialog in a zeppelin hanger? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.254.246.253 (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Marefisento
(ーレ富セント, Marefisento), Seriously, just because it's in the Kingdom Hearts section do we really need an Engrishized version of her name? --AnY FOUR! (talk) 01:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Similar quotes/situations to witch scenes in Wizard of Oz
Anyone watched both Sleeping Beauty and Wizard of Oz within a short period of time? Probably not, unless you have kids...or love of classic movies.

There are descriptive words/phrases used by both characters for similar situations. The green skin is obvious. Check out the hands for both. The general facial features/structure for both are also similar. Even the use of a "crystal ball" type globe on her staff to give the prince a view of his future as he is imprisoned, as the witch did of Dorthy. In fact, I had myself questioning which came first...briefly, of course. Is there any background history on what inspired the animator to design Maleficent as he did? And the lines Maleficent speaks...? Considering Oz was released 20 years prior to Sleeping Beauty, there is little doubt of the influence. Is it documented? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizlvsinfo (talk • contribs) 17:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Since you mentioned possible inspirations for Maleficent, I think this would fit here: I saw a picture called "Plague Witch" by Martin McKenna, which looks rather similar to Maleficent. I'm wondering if the Disney artists got their inspiration there. --Mithcoriel (talk) 21:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Improper article
Doesn't anyone else notice that not only does this article not use any templates, but doesn't even have any links in it?! Please fix &mdash; Supuhstar  *   §  01:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Conflicting accounts of what type of "being" she is
Under Powers and Abilities, the article reads "Maleficent is an evil fairy (though she is often mistaken for a witch)," but in the very next paragraph (in the Development section), the article reads "The character was animated by Marc Davis . The wicked witch was aptly named "Maleficent" (which means "Evil-doer")." and continues to refer to her as a witch. So which (hah) is it? Fairy or witch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.142.201.254 (talk) 21:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

2014 film
I created a dis-ambiguation page for this article and an article for the 2014 film, but someone reverted me. Right now there isn't that much info, but by a year from now there will enough info that the 2014 film will have a good article, making the dis-ambiguation page useful. Georgia guy (talk) 14:15, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That was not proper. This is still the primary topic and we do not need a disambiguation page when there are only two available options.  This page should be moved back to Maleficent.  Powers T 17:52, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: earlier move reverted as technical request. -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Maleficent (Disney) → Maleficent – A premature and undiscussed move resulted in this page being moved away from its long-held title, Maleficent. It should be moved back until there such time that there is a consensus that it is no longer the primary topic (which is a long way away, I believe). Powers T 16:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Walt Disney's World on Ice
"Maleficent appears in the new version of the show Disneyland Adventure (replacing The Incredibles villain Syndrome). When she terrorizes the resort, she puts the entire kingdom to sleep, and puts Minnie Mouse and Donald Duck into Sleeping Beauty Syndrome. She later took over It's a Small World and Pirates of the Caribbean, but The Incredibles managed to defeat her, though she vowed for revenge." what the heck is this? Is this for real? -- blm07 05:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Nationality
Giving Maleficent's nationality as English was reverted because it was unsourced and seems dubious. Why would a character in a fictional fairytale world have a nationality?-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Angela Jolie is/has Native blood in her, that's why. Jennifer Aniston is European. How could anyone who watches movies/films not know this?205.250.171.202 (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The nationality of a fictional character is of the fictional country that that character is a national of. We go with what is stated in references specifically the work itself as to what that is. What the nationality of the actor happens to be is irrelevant. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

The mistress of the animals and woods
The mistress of the animals (and the woods) should not be violated and mutilated, since only she is capable of loving all creatures with UNCONDITIONED LOVE, including loving humans (domesticated-civilized „little beasties“).

Philipp can only love what he „knows and what he can trust“, hence he fails to awaken the girl.

No wonder that all fairy queens, magicians and shamans have died out in „our“ world of iron cages (buildings, cars, electric current wires, mobile phones, …), iron wings (drones), and iron coins (money)…

By the way: there is also some „master of the animals“, but even he has died out in „our“ iron(ic) world as well… — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1205:500D:44E0:1CC9:C2EE:F70E:1757 (talk) 10:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Controversial page move
Someone moved this page from it's longstanding "Maleficent" to "Maleficent (disney character) then to Maleficent (character). Crazy stuff saying it was uncontroversial. It doesn't matter if there are dictionary words or not, it matters on if it's the prime topic. As I write this I notice that at least someone has tried to correct this a speedy delete of "Maleficent" so we can move this back. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

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Non-free images
Originally this article had the non-free image File:Maleficent disney.png in the infobox, and File:Malefica.jpg in the body. I was concerned that these were redundant with respect to the "minimal usage" criterion at WP:NFCC, so I moved File:Malefica.jpg to the infobox and WP:PROD'd the other one. made an edit to put File:Maleficent disney.png back in the infobox, but not restoring the other image, with reason: "if only file is used it should be the png file consistent with other animated character's article and not a screenshot". I'm wondering if you could elaborate on why you think the png is better. To my mind, File:Malefica.jpg is a better visual representation as it shows the character as she looked in her original and most prominent appearance (Sleeping Beauty (1959 film)). I'm not able to determine the actual source of the other image, but it appears to be a much more recent, stylized depiction of the character. It has some weird gradient effects, and the colors and proportions of the face are pretty different, compared to her appearance in Sleeping Beauty. Colin M (talk) 16:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

On Maleficent's "spouse and children" section
I added Maleficent's spouse and child from Once Upon a Time, only for them to be removed by a random IP address. If Maleficent's spouse and child from Descendants are listed, it's only fair for Maleficent's spouse and child from OUAT to be listed as well. I don't know who did the edit, but as Wikipedia won't let me reverse it, I'm going to have to manually edit it in a second time. Obversa (talk) 16:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

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