Talk:Malvern Hills


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Question
Can anyone suggest a better way of saying "The quarries, especially North Quarry and Tank Quarry are a favourite place for local teenagers to be rescued from.", or should the line just be removed?

Geology(expansion needed)
The geology of the Malvern Hills is complex enough for the article to have its own section on the composition of the rocks, and a cutaway diagramme of the strata. These are some of the oldest hills in  the country and this information  is therefore important. maybe somebody can help  by  creating  this section. Some useful background information is available here: Malvern Hills Geology. --Kudpung (talk) 03:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Have expanded it slightly but much remains to be added. Geopersona (talk) 21:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Very good ideas. Here's the probable order of importance. I'll  chip in  too whren I  can.
 * Moved to ToDo list--Kudpung (talk) 23:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Resources
The following could be useful for expanding  and referencing  the article:
 * The Beacon has its own Wikipedia page at Worcestershire Beacon and it  needs a lot of references.


 * http://www.malvernhillsaonb.org.uk/documents/MalvernHillsAONB_AnnualReport2008-09.pdf


 * National Archives - all  Acts of Parliament and related documents concerning  Malvern  Hills Conservators from  1288 AD to  the present  day, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/onlinelists/GB2049%20ARCHIVES.pdf


 * Quarrying:http://www.miac.org.uk/hills1.htm


 * Office of Public Sector Information: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts


 * The ANOB is jointly managed by the Forest of Dean District Council, Gloucestershire County Council; The County of Herefordshire District Council; Malvern Hills District Council, Worcestershire County Council and The Countryside Agency (CA) http://www.malvernhillsaonb.org.uk/pages/documents/Malvern_MOA_final0607.pdf


 * Bikett, Percival (1882) Malvern Hills (information compiled from documents dating from 1128)


 * MHC: http://www.malvernhills.org.uk/visiting/history_of_the_hills.aspx


 * MHC: http://www.malvernhills.org.uk/visiting/archaeology_of_the_hills.aspx


 * MHC:http://www.malvernhills.org.uk/visiting/geology_and_geography.aspx


 * MHC is composed of: "Two persons to be nominated by the council of the county of Worcestershire; Two persons to be nominated by the council of the district of Herefordshire; Eight persons to be nominated from and by the council of the district of Malvern Hills;" http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1996/Uksi_19961867_en_4.htm Statutory Instrument 1996 No. 1867 The Hereford and Worcester (Structural, Boundary and Electoral Changes) Order 1996


 * This image might help  identify  the names of the peaks: http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/panoramas/ENG/MALVERN.gif


 * http://www.totaltravel.co.uk/travel/midlands/south-midlands/malverns-worcester/photos


 * Area of Great Landscape Value, the Hills immediately east are designated as a Site of Special Scientific Interest and the area is also designated as Historic Park and Garden.


 * The 1995 Malvern Hills Act. cafe burned down in 1985 (golly, that  was 25 yrs. ago  already!)


 * Garrard, Rose (2008)DONKEYS YEARS ON THE MALVERN HILLS : “By the time the little village of Great Malvern was made a town in 1851, there were as many donkeys as human residents.”  Beacon  Books


 * Malvern water has played a big part  in  the growth of  the town http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/herefordandworcester/hi/people_and_places/nature/newsid_8317000/8317827.stm


 * One of the biggest hotels, built to house visitors, is now a girls school. http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/herefordandworcester/hi/people_and_places/nature/newsid_8317000/8317827.stm


 * The healing powers of Malvern water were first mentioned as far back as 1622 in Bannister's Breviary of the Eyes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/herefordandworcester/hi/people_and_places/nature/newsid_8317000/8317827.stm


 * In 2003 the Abberley and Malvern Hills area was awarded the UNESCO-endorsed status of a European Geopark. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2203319/A-brief-history-of-Malvern-England History


 * Significant changes occurred after the outbreak of WW2, as the town was chosen as a refuge for government departments, and an RAF base was set up. Evacuees from the south arrived, as did troops for quartering and refugees from Belgium. With the arrival of US forces, the town population swelled to 30000 and five army hospitals were built on the town’s fringes. The two existing government Research establishments, founded around WW1, were united in 1953 as the Radar Research Establishment and this remains a defence installation to this day. --http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2203319/A-brief-history-of-Malvern-England


 * TheMalvern Hills receive over one million visits a year Malvern Hills Conservators web site: http://www.malvernhills.org.uk Minutes: MALVERN HILLS CONSERVATORS ANNUAL MEETING OF THE BOARD 12 November 2009 7 pm Priory Lodge Hall  Avenue Road  Malvern 9.4.3.1 (Ammual mtg 121109 for web site.doc Malvern Hills Conservators web site: http://www.malvernhills.org.uk


 * …an Area of Great Landscape Value, the Hills immediately east are designated as a Site of Special Scientific Interest and the area is also designated as Historic Park and Garden.http://councillors.herefordshire.gov.uk/Published/C00000255/M00000908/AI00002085/$It5REF10NE20031665FCLOUDNINEJUBILEEDRIVEUPPERCOLWALL.docA.ps.pdf


 * Tunnels: http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/herefordandworcester/hi/people_and_places/nature/newsid_8316000/8316793.stm

--Kudpung (talk) 05:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Funicular railway & chairlift was first  discussed in 1906 (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/onlinelists/GB2049%20ARCHIVES.pdf  (Box 27) and agin  in  1961 (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/onlinelists/GB2049%20ARCHIVES.pdf  (F2)

Does "Hollybush Hill" exist?
The list of hills (which seems to be take from http://www.ephotozine.com/photolocations/malvern-hills-488 without giving them a citation) includes "Hollybush Hill" between Midsummer Hill and Raggedstone Hill. This appears to be a misreading of the map at http://www.malvernhills.org.uk/Content/Malverns_PocketGuide_web.pdf which includes the village of Hollybush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollybush,_Worcestershire) and a few other passes in what is otherwise a list of hills. After several hours of research, I can't find any evidence of there being a hill of the same name.

The source of the confusion may well be http://www.malvernhillsaonb.org.uk/documents/L02-2135-02B.pdf - note that this includes "Tinkers Hill 700ft (213m)" which isn't on the Wiki, and perhaps should be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.30.53 (talk) 12:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hollybush Hill lies below and to the east of Midsummer Hill.

Hollybush Hill on MAGIC Multi Agency Geographic Information for the Countryside Mhygelle (talk) 08:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I've added Tinkers Hill to the list of individual hills. Mhygelle (talk) 19:17, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Vistas
I am considering nominating this article to be rated as a Good article in the new year. Does the Vistas section go into too much detail to satisfy Good article criteria? Mhygelle (talk) 10:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The section is perhaps overly detailed but not easily reduced. However, the information is not really of the nature that would constitute a complete article on its own. Despite this, of these two choices, the latter would probably be the appraoch I would suggest. Split off the tables into a stand alone piece and reference the "main article" in the section but keep the overview. Saffron Blaze (talk) 11:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the section is fine within the article, although it could be greatly improved by adding coordinates for each vista point. The same comment about coordinates is also true for the list of hills too. When that is done, adding the kml template to the article will allow all the hills and vista points to be viewed on a single clickable/zoomable map. That sort of thing adds real value to Wikipedia articles (IMHO). --Bob Re-born (talk) 11:56, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As an afterthought you could spin off List of hills and vistas in the Malvern Hills if you really wanted to create a separate article. --Bob Re-born (talk) 11:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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