Talk:Man's inhumanity to man

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This article is based on the phrase "Man's inhumanity to man" and not for the acutal discussion of inhumanity or of man. This phrase (mentioned about 182 times in Wikipedia) has been used in so many variants that it is notable by itself. Jrcrin001 (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

In reference to socialism
"More inhumanity to man, since 1919, has been done in the name of socialism than any other cause." Attributed to Winston Churchill - I am trying to find the source. It may not be Churchill, maybe only alluded to him? I have used it elsewhere and I have seen it in print, but finding the original source is elusive. It is a good quote and very accurate. Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Reasoning for Section changes
As shown by the quote from Orwell on the book's page, the governments in 1984 were not intended as an attack on socialism. They were intended to be totalitarian. The other quote is talking about what the author considers the unfortunate parts of human history in general. It might consider socialism to be part of that but it does not refer to socialism primarily. The quote from Bakunin is in the "Rousseau's Theory of the State" section of the page, where he refers to states in general, not specifically socialist ones. His criticism is one of an anarchist. Munci (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Inaccurate statement/Unreliable Source
Edward Bellamy was not leader of a party which never existed, as was previously stated in this article. What is stated in the article is that he was the leader of the Nationalist Party and was a socialist. In any case, the article is on a website under a spam filter and so it is obviously not a reliable source. If it were a reliable source, there would be no problem in adding a link to it. Munci (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Channeling the Virgin Mary fails WP:RS?
OK, I'll bite. How does the quote from a well known and documented source "direct towards a particular end. Ø cause to pass along or through a specified route or medium" - ie 'channeling' - "the Virgin Mary fails RS?"

Please remember that there is an article on Wikipedia entitled Blessed Virgin Mary (Roman Catholic) which reflects the long printed magazine called "Our Lady" and published by "These Last Days Ministries, Inc." which is not on the list of banned or restricted sources.

This is in reference to: reference info: {cite web|accessdate=December 26, 2009|url=http://www.tldm.org/directives/d240.htm|title=#240 - MAN'S INHUMANITY TO MAN|Author=tldm.org|work=Our Lady, October 2, 1970|publisher=These Last Days Ministries, Inc.|year=1996 }
 * "Man's inhumanity to his brother is Our greatest sorrow.” – [Blessed Virgin Mary (Roman Catholic)|Our Lady], October 2, 1970

So, pray tell (pun intended), why delete the quote before you delete again? Please explain. What am I missing? Jrcrin001 (talk) 23:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "That this is a quote of a 1975 miraculous appearance of the Virgin Mary is dubious at best and fringe OR at worst" - This was the comment used when deleting the quote and reference above at 02:56, 26 October 2010 by 96.37.198.28 - Please discuss here before just deleting. Please explain.  What am I missing that you specifically object to? Jrcrin001 (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Used by Nobel
Hello,

I removed the following line because it has no source and that it makes no reference of how the phrase is used by those authors. Please cite reference, page numbers and a breif quote how it is used by those authors. Please use the same format as of the rest of the article.

Used by Nobel Prize winning authors, William Golding's in his allegorical novel Lord of the Flies and in John Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men.

Thank you, Jrcrin001 (talk) 02:56, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

German?
'It is possible that Burns reworded a similar quote from Samuel von Pufendorf who in 1673 wrote, "More inhumanity has been done by man himself than any other of nature's causes."'

Can someone supply the original German please? I'm sure that there will be variations in translation it would be useful to know.--193.39.159.73 (talk) 17:29, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

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