Talk:Management of schizophrenia

Alternative schizophrenia treatment
'an autopsy of 82 patients who had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Gastritis was found in 50%, enteritis in 85% and colitis in 92%.' Modern medicine sees all mental illness deriving only from the brain - primarily from neurotransmitter imbalance and nothing else - the truth is that there many also be an underlining physical cause (eg: infection, celiac disease, etc) and this is often never investigated, and so its no wonder today we are faced with the current tragedy that the Mentally ill die 25 years earlier, on average. Studies you may want to read: '99% certain of a genetic association between schizophrenia and coeliac disease' Read more here
 * You have it backwards. The psychiatric drug/medications affect the 100 million neuron of the intestine as well as the brain. If the person doesn't take the drug/medicine they would not develop gastritis, enteritis or colitis. https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201111/your-backup-brain --Mark v1.0 (talk) 17:16, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Nutrition
Should nutritional therapies be included from quality articles and studies (i.e. peer reviewed, double-blind, randomized, controlled-trials)? I think, absolutely. If there are general agreement, we do... Gnif global (talk) 12:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

needs a rewrite
I think this article needs a serious restructure. Suggest following the structure of a recognised clinical guidenline. for example the NICE guidelines

Some of the key concerns


 * Opening paragraph The concept of a cure as such in the treatment of schizophrenia remains controversial, as there is no consensus on the definition of "treatment" in the case of schizophrenia, although some criteria for the remission of symptoms have recently been suggested. is an odd way to open on the topic of treatment of schizophrenia. Treatment of schizophrenia does occur.  this is an article on that topic.  Why open with a statement that states there is controversity.  Suggest rewrite


 * Poorly structuring of sections (e.g. asessment of effectiveness and admission to hospital)


 * Experiment medicies LY2109823 experimental not current treatment should be remove. Have done this


 * section on sodium needs removing. Not a current treatment.

Have suggested a new structure new structure for this article Can someone please copy the contents to this talk page.Earlypsychosis (talk) 10:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I am going to edit this as per WP:BOLD and WP:IAR so please dont WP:BITE. I would also welcome mentoring as per my user page Earlypsychosis (talk) 07:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

New clinical guidelines are due from NICE (UK)
I see that NICE is about to publish an updated version of their guidelines on the treatment of schizophrenia. Should be good Earlypsychosis (talk) 12:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

sodium treatment
i have never heard of this treatment in clinical settings. some of the articles cited are very old (1917). one of the articles is a rat study. several of the citations are links to schizophrenia blogs.

deleted Earlypsychosis (talk) 05:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Agree with prceding. Good call. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I have reincluded some information in this talk page because I found a 1972 reference where patients developed psychosis from hyponatremia. The reason I wanted to include it in the first place was because d2high is converted to d2low by sodium; but I have since learnt that NaCl is absorbed into the cells in hypoxia so that approach won't work.

This is the 1972 reference: " Psychosis   with     Low      Sodium       Syndrome" BY  GEORGE M. BLRNELL. M.D.. AND TIAII A. FOSTER. M.D. Amer. J. Psychiat. 128.’lO. April 1972 Notpayingthepsychiatrist (talk) 01:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

CET treatment
"CET, an evidenced based practice, is now (1-14-11) offered in 11 community mental health agencies and hospitals. With over 550 graduates, it is one of the most wide spread and successful forms of cognitive remediation. A typical course of CET last 45 to 50 once-a-week sessions with a 90% attendance rate and an 85% graduation rate. See cetcleveland.org for more information."

this sounds like advertising. possibly needs to get revised or removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by C0mmie (talk • contribs) 21:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Management of schizophrenia
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Management of schizophrenia's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "AFP10": From Atypical antipsychotic:  From Schizophrenia:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Updating psychosocial section
Updating CBT section for psychosocial therapies for schizophrenia: "Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is used to target specific symptoms and improve related issues such as self-esteem and social functioning. Although the results of early trials were inconclusive [107] as the therapy advanced from its initial applications in the mid-1990s, meta-analytic reviews suggested CBT to be an effective treatment for the psychotic symptoms of schizophrenia.[108][109] Nonetheless more recent meta analyses have cast doubt upon the utility of CBT as a treatment for the symptoms of psychosis[110][111][112]"

A 2012 Cochrane Review found that based on evidence from randomized controlled trials, cognitive behavioral therapy does not have an advantage over other therapies for people with schizophrenia. The review found that relapses and re-hospitalization were not reduced, and there was not a difference in improving mental state or managing the symptoms of schizophrenia between CBT and other therapies. Mnnguyen (talk) 01:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)mnnguyen

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randomized double blind placebo controled trial regarding Carnosine and schizophrenia
Maybe should add it to the list? http://www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964(12)00571-3/abstract — Preceding unsigned comment added by RebelRex (talk • contribs) 21:43, 10 March 2018 (UTC)