Talk:Manchester United F.C./Archive 16

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2022
You say that man united has the most trophies of any English team. they are tied with Liverpool, both have 66. you say Man United is only one of two clubs that have won the club world cup, both Chelsea and Liverpool have won it, making them one of three. Therealman34 (talk) 20:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 晚安 (トークページ) 08:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2022
Amendment to Honours section under Doubles and Trebles.

This currently states:

Doubles League and FA Cup (3): 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99 League and UEFA Champions League (2): 1998–99, 2007–08

Trebles League, FA Cup and UEFA Champions League (1): 1998–99

However, the treble is duplicated as two doubles for 1998-99 season which is not consistent with other treble winning teams. The page should read:

Doubles League and FA Cup (2): 1993–94, 1995–96 League and UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08

Trebles League, FA Cup and UEFA Champions League (1): 1998–99 AndyB48 (talk) 19:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Why shouldn't other articles be brought in line with this one? – PeeJay 18:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There's opposition to this edit request so I will not fulfill it right now. please respond to the comment made if you'd like this edit to be made. Thank you and happy editing. --Ferien (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

New Manager.
Ten Hag I officially the new manager of Man Utd. ZexaXIII (talk) 10:42, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Not until the end of the season, and there's about a month left until then. – PeeJay 19:44, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Why no rivalry w Chelsea?
See here, pls - thanks. 41.58.236.130 (talk) 22:22, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Cavani & matic
Edison cavani & Matic have officially left Manchester United 86.174.248.226 (talk) 10:05, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Technically they don't leave until the end of their contracts, which expire on 30 June, but it looks like someone already removed them, so no point adding them back. – PeeJay 14:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2022
Manchester United play in the town of Old Trafford, but it's not in Manchester. NJ Thommy (talk) 04:58, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2022
I want to edit it so I can add new players. Zane1612 (talk) 13:20, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * What players are these? Mattythewhite (talk) 16:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I want to add the best thing in history, Patrice Evra and Luis Suarez argument Zane1612 (talk) 16:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're going to have to explain that to me... Mattythewhite (talk) 16:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2022
Hello derren fletcher isnt a first team coach I think made mistake

122.106.35.173 (talk) 11:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 11:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

War of the roses
The wars of the roses was not fought between Yorkshire and Lancashire so why is it cited as the source for the cross Pennine rivalry between Leeds and Manchester. In fact, other than the perceived similarity by name, the two rivals for the throne of England had little to do with the two counties since much of the estate of the house of Lancaster was actually located in Yorkshire! Jailhousejoe (talk) 13:04, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2022
Undo previous edit since owner was vandalised. Purplelean (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ MadGuy7023 (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2022
- !Period !Kit manufacturer !Shirt sponsor (chest) !Shirt sponsor (sleeve) Akiho17 (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 15:35, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

The 'Man U' Issue
So it seems recently that the myth about the 'Man U' name being an insult originating from a West Brom chant (why do we care about them by the way?) seems to be becoming more and more prevalent in social media and united related sites incliding now this wikipedia page. As Giles Oakley of The Republik of Mancunia wrote over ten years ago, the term had been used for decades by fans, the club, and the media, both before and after the 'highly relevant club' west brom did their supposed chant.

If we are going to label it as a GENUINE insult to the club, rather than being something perpetuated by our own misinformed fans over the last 10-20 years or so can we at least have a discussion about it? Ƒϰɑϯє (talk) 14:58, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Previously this issue was discussed last year over the same issue. I can't find any reliable source discussing the use of MANU and Edwards and West Brom, and it's refuted by the general usage by the press, the club itself and various other sources. We could say it's not an official nickname of the club that they give to themselves, but it is a very common contraction. Koncorde (talk) 16:05, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Link edit
The page regarding the 2011-2012 Premier League Manchester Derby Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City is almost ready to be submitted. Could you please add the link to the new page on this page? LIUC6Riccardo17 (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Zidane Iqbal/Kobbie Mainoo
I see United have added Zidane Iqbal to their first-team squad page on their website, and that we've correctly followed suit. However, on the United website, they've listed Iqbal as wearing number 73, which is not the case; he is number 55, as listed here. The player who actually wears number 73 for United is Kobbie Mainoo. Since Mainoo has been named in United first-team squads for the last couple of games, isn't it more likely that the United website meant to add Mainoo to the first-team squad list, not Iqbal? – PeeJay 13:39, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Nicknames
The other names the club is known by should appear in the lead section. Removing them is not appropriate, and User:Haldraper should not continue removing them without a discussion on this page taking place in support of that. – PeeJay 19:28, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2023
Lukedoran070 (talk) 22:24, 6 February 2023 (UTC) Man united have won 0 champions leagues in the last 5 years
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Additionally, any additions need to have sourcing that discuses the significance in order to demonstrate WP:DUEWEIGHT. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2023
List Bruno Fernandes as Vice-Captain in the players section. 2603:7080:C838:E862:6D23:C17:143D:5071 (talk) 19:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

United’s grounds
The header section of this article says that United moved from Newton Heath to Old Trafford in 1910. They actually left Newton Heath long before that (the text under Grounds is correct) and played at Bank Street in Clayton until 1910. It would be helpful if someone could correct this. Thanks. 2A00:23EE:1009:EA5:DCFB:C43B:63B0:1FB1 (talk) 17:16, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Manchester United Football Club, commonly referred to as Man United (often stylised as Man Utd), or simply United, is a professional football club based in Old Trafford, Greater Manchester, England. The club competes in the Premier League, the top division in the English football league system. Nicknamed the Red Devils, it was founded as Newton Heath LYR Football Club in 1878, but changed its name to Manchester United in 1902. After a spell playing in Clayton, Manchester, the club moved to its current stadium, Old Trafford, in 1910. 78.100.223.193 (talk) 13:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2023
Change Manchester United Football Club, commonly referred to as Man United (often stylised as Man Utd), Man U or simply United, is a professional football club based in Old Trafford, Greater Manchester, England.

to Manchester United Football Club, commonly referred to as Man United (often stylised as Man Utd), or simply United, is a professional football club based in Old Trafford, Greater Manchester, England.

Reason: Removal of Man U as this term originated from rival fans after the Munich air disaster as a way of mocking those who had died. Article to support this - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/793950-manchester-united-can-we-stop-calling-them-man-u Bennydiction6 (talk) 09:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. While it may have originated that way, it no longer has the same meaning when being used. Cited article even states that Man U is the most common nick name. They are even listed on NYSE as MANU. WikiVirusC (talk) 18:47, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2023
Change black shorts to green for third kit

The third kit colour is wrong. It depicts black shorts but in the current match against AFC Bournemouth (20 May 2023) Manchester United are wearing matching green shorts to their green shirts. Cspanis (talk) 15:22, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -Lemonaka‎  19:24, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

MAN U is a derogatory nickname
The correct nickname is Man United. 172.58.27.36 (talk) 15:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * who cares 92.9.96.129 (talk) 21:09, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, you do, clearly. PeachyBum07 (talk) 01:57, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Question
Hello dear English Wikipedia user I want to ask, has Manchester United FC been acquired by Sheikh Jassim? Badak Jawa (talk) 23:46, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2023
Zidane Iqbal has left and been confirmed by himself on social media. Tuanzebe also. 81.129.176.209 (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The squad will be updated when contracts expire on June 30th, not before. – PeeJay 16:21, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I've marked the "ansewered"-parameter on the edit request as "no", this way requests that are being completed don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. NotAGenious (talk) 17:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2023
X After June 30th loans expire and ones on loan return, remember to remove Sabitzer and Weghorst.Y 2A00:23C4:E1D0:7801:F4D7:4AB8:ABC2:6D62 (talk) 05:26, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  08:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2023
I want to change a page please allow NovalHIlmi2923 (talk) 17:40, 23 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Trey Maturin™ 17:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Rasmus Hojlund
The signing of Rasmus Hojlund is basically confirmed, so should we add him or wait until the official announcement from the club? Marko1 (talk) 10:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)


 * You've answered the question yourself. "Basically confirmed" is not the same as "confirmed". Until either club says his registration has been transferred, we do not make any changes. – PeeJay 23:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2023
This page has been edited to remove Jonny Evans' squad number, and assign Rasmus Højlund number 17. However I'm not sure why, as as per the offical mufc website, Højlund has not yet been given a number, and Evans does have 27:

https://www.manutd.com/en/players-and-staff/First-Team LettPersona (talk) 18:54, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Evans has not been registered with a squad number, per a news article posted on the club website a couple of days ago. He appears with a number on the website because the squad list draws data from the same database as the match engine; if they didn’t assign Evans a number in that database, he would appear without one in friendly line-ups, but we can see he wore 27 in friendlies. However, that does not mean he has been assigned that number officially. Numbers worn in pre-season are not official. – PeeJay 21:51, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Garnacho number 17?
On both this page and on Alejandro Garnacho’s Wikipedia page, it says that he has been given the number 17. However, the United website says that he still has number 49.  Velo ciraptor  888  08:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2023
Shirt sponsor (sleeve) Akiho17 (talk) 13:13, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * What about it? If a change needs made, what is the change, and what's the reliable source(s) where we can verify it? —C.Fred (talk) 13:16, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * BRANDON WILLIAMS should be number 33. Álvaro Fernández should be on the first team loan list not the youth. Akiho17 (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Was Brandon Williams assigned a squad number from last season? Can you provide a source for that? – PeeJay 15:40, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * yes, here is the source.https://www.manutd.com/en/players-and-staff/detail/brandon-williams Akiho17 (talk) 16:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That's fair, good point. – PeeJay 20:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Loan info in first team section
It seems we kinda started an edit war, which is good to clear and end. PeeJay keeps adding on loan end date in squad template which is a practice that is not used in any other football article. I don't know how this is not a good argument to remove it, as it is the common way we all do it for all football articles. Anyone can join and explain what is the difference for the Manchester United article, or just to confirm the used practice. Chris Calvin (talk) 21:14, 3 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't remember how it was done, I thought it was with dates, but now seeing how long it is, breaking a line, I don't think so. That's why I checkec article history versions and it turns out that loanees where without end dates - only those loaned out had dates.
 * So, taking that into account, my position is that it shouldn't be added. Arguments for:
 * keeping dates:
 * full information
 * removing dates:
 * better overall look
 * it's a current squad
 * no braking lines
 * common practice (also at MU page)
 * Red Devil (talk) 06:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't break a line on any screen I view Wikipedia on, so that's just your problem. As far as I'm concerned, we've included loan end dates forever, and I've been editing this page for more than 15 years. We include the end dates for players who are currently away from the club, and the whole point of a loan is that it's temporary. Without the end date, how does a reader know this isn't a six-month loan, or a one-month loan? If other pages don't do it, I think that's something that needs to be corrected at their end, not here. – PeeJay 08:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, this is definitely something that should be discussed at WT:FOOTY, since it affects way more than just this article. – PeeJay 08:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Loans
The loans need updating Charlie McNeill has returned from loan RGJ 97 (talk) 16:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC)