Talk:Manchu people/Archive 3

Total number
In the 17th century the population of the Manchu people was approximately 500,000. Current population of them is estimated to be 10,000,000. The population increased nearly 20 times?!? It's impossible that their population increased geometrically despite numerous wars, assimilation, repressions and harsh conditions!!! Total number of them still uncertain. A half of them genetically same with Han Chinese. Is there any data about the demographic history of Tungusic people? How many Manchus were in 1910? Total number of Manchu population of Manchukuo uncertain: Manchukuo "In early 1934, the total population of Manchukuo was estimated as 30,880,000. These numbers included 29,510,000 Chinese (96%, which should have included the Manchurian population)". One-child_policy" "non-Han ethnic groups are subjected to different laws and are usually allowed to have two children in urban areas, and three or four in rural areas". Where do live most of them? In rural areas or in cities?

"China's official statistics are not as reliable. Lacob.N. Koch-Weser, USCC policy analyst; US-China Economic and Security Review Comission Staff Research Project, 2013 The Reliability of China's Economic Data"

"China’s official economic statistics have suffered for some time from a problem of reliability.Measuring GDP in Asia worldeconomics.com, February 2015"

"''politicization of statistics...make Chinese statistics confusing. Fred Gale. China's Statistics: Are They Reliable?"

"Official Chinese economic statistics, from unemployment to arable land, are controlled by the Communist Party and therefore cannot be trusted. How to Make China More Honest, Derek Scissors, Ph.D., September 4, 2013"

Don't you think that under the name Manchu hiding Han Chinese people? Chinese official statistics are huge fraud!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.126.252.89 (talk) 11:03, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * If you actually read the article and the sources, you would notice that Han Bannermen and Mongol Bannermen are allowed to classify themselves as Manchu under Chinese law, not just ethnic Manchu Bannermen.Rajmaan (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

https://books.google.com/books?id=k2gq4FQON2gC&pg=PA24&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAmoVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=XEBBAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA24&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC4Q6AEwA2oVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=k2gq4FQON2gC&pg=PA24&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAmoVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=yCqMneCHMJ4C&pg=PA112&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEQQ6AEwB2oVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=yCqMneCHMJ4C&pg=PA112&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEQQ6AEwB2oVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=DDwLAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA291&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFkQ6AEwCmoVChMIubr9jZrwyAIVgsk-Ch3ccwyy#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=g-xBAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA449&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCWoVChMIubr9jZrwyAIVgsk-Ch3ccwyy#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=ldZAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA74&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBWoVChMIubr9jZrwyAIVgsk-Ch3ccwyy#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=LvKJAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA665&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CD8Q6AEwBmoVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=rm86AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA288&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CE8Q6AEwCWoVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=g-xBAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA733&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBWoVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=mMVAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA332&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAGoVChMIotmA-JjwyAIVTG4-Ch2Ocwu5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=_cpjqGSDZssC&pg=PA1043&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEYQ6AEwCGoVChMI4_j975jwyAIVA4I-Ch0n3QLW#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=anBKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA786&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFEQ6AEwCWoVChMI3s3P2ZrwyAIViII-Ch1VcQhk#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=yCqMneCHMJ4C&printsec=frontcover&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAGoVChMI3s3P2ZrwyAIViII-Ch1VcQhk#v=onepage&q=&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=g-xBAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA612&dq=&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAWoVChMI3s3P2ZrwyAIViII-Ch1VcQhk#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Pictures
http://www.wdl.org/en/item/3958/

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/exhibitions/china/manchu_bride.aspx

https://books.google.com/books?id=BGJkAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT264&lpg=PT264&dq=is+even+liable+to+be+beaten+by+her+mother-in-law,+and+husband+too,+if+she+neglects+to+discharge+her+duties+as+general+domestic+drudge.&source=bl&ots=2V3vOdLOCA&sig=0uQLe0qEy-UreRAsNk0wC3zol_U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmwqyMlbHJAhXEdz4KHaCrD2cQ6AEILDAC#v=onepage&q=is%20even%20liable%20to%20be%20beaten%20by%20her%20mother-in-law%2C%20and%20husband%20too%2C%20if%20she%20neglects%20to%20discharge%20her%20duties%20as%20general%20domestic%20drudge.&f=false

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MANCHU_LADIES_AND_A_MANCHU_MARRIAGE_2.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:China-_A_Manchu_Bride_WDL3958.png

http://catalogue.wellcomelibrary.org/record=b1177562

http://orientallyyours.tumblr.com/post/60528864447/these-are-part-of-a-collection-of-original-glass

http://blog.wellcomecollection.org/2010/06/25/me-old%C2%A0china/

http://viewshare.org/views/Bohdan/world-photographs/

https://www.tumblr.com/search/artist:%20john%20thomson

http://jeannepompadour.tumblr.com/post/62585658306/a-manchu-chinese-bride-by-john-thomson1871

http://cavigliascabinet.tumblr.com/post/11099536215/john-thomson-manchurian-bride-ca-1870-negative

http://maudelynn.tumblr.com/post/11240335114/john-thomson-manchurian-bride-ca-1870negative

http://mahorobarolling.tumblr.com/post/60567811148

http://mi--rae.tumblr.com/post/73283448931/manchu-bride-by-john-thomson-x

http://kened.tumblr.com/post/71320156316/a-manchu-bride-photograph-by-john-thomson-john

http://aineli.tumblr.com/post/39924506656

http://danielleromeril.tumblr.com/post/20139747807/from-john-thomsons-china-series-1868-1872

http://fabiche.tumblr.com/post/19950208415/john-thomson

http://hansskastorp.tumblr.com/post/132361818855/john-thomson-example-of-a-coiffure-on-a-tartar-or

http://orphanwork.tumblr.com/post/24250339252/john-thomson-china

http://mish-maoul.tumblr.com/post/31166812754/example-of-a-coiffure-on-a-tartar-or-manchu

http://michael-jackson-jihad.tumblr.com/post/19992448821

http://brassmanticore.tumblr.com/post/55612224769/a-manchu-girl-wearing-platform-shoes-and-a

http://shihlun.tumblr.com/post/30510378688/a-slide-peep-show-peking-china-1869-by-john

http://orientallyyours.tumblr.com/post/56865263389/a-pekingese-peep-show-this-is-one-of-a

http://zzzze.tumblr.com/post/133588434775/john-thomson-prince-gong-1872

http://zzzze.tumblr.com/post/90848718865/john-thomson-china1868-1872

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ralphrepo_photolog/4179968648/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14592825358/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14576791219/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14581628239/

http://www.wdl.org/en/item/1937/

http://www.wdl.org/en/item/1936/

http://www.wdl.org/en/item/1917/

http://any-titles.tumblr.com/post/23153941794/1-mr-thomson-also-took-photographs-of-family

http://any-titles.tumblr.com/post/22727558720/john-thomson-china-1868-1872

http://nativethoughts.tumblr.com/post/15569665030

21:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)