Talk:Mancow Muller/Archives/2013

What is that garbage under "Early Life?"
Aside from obviously being entirely false, the majority of it is lifted directly out of the Austin Powers movies (specifically regarding Dr. Evil). This is obviously NOT real biographical information, and I'm pretty sure Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a repository for bad (and plagiarized) humor. I think the whole section should be removed. FireHorse 16:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Some Howard Stern fanboy, with no life, has been altering parts of the article to make fun of Mancow and praise Stern. I reverted the vandalism --ShadowJester07 16:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ShadowJester07. I was preparing to do it myself, when I refreshed the page and found your edit. ;-) FireHorse 16:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Aforementioned what?
There's a line about the "aforementioned critique in New City," but there is no "aforemention" (or "aftmention" either).
 * Exactly what I was going to put. --Awiseman 20:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm taking it out until someone can clarify it. --Awiseman 20:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The birth of Cow's twin daughters should probably be worked into the article. Rearden Metal 03:21, 28 November 2005 (UTC) This article needs a serious update. There is a lot of information missing. --Viriditas 02:34, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'm removing the paragraph that User:L. keeps adding. It clearly violates POV rules. -- 69.143.255.219 5 July 2005 23:28 (UTC)


 * I am stating a fact of the radio show, also talked about in the book. It violates no POV rules, and is being restored. Make a rational argument or lay off. --L. 6 July 2005 13:14 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: Since Anon has taken the steps of continuing to delete items from this page without providing a valid reason, I will regard all further edits by him to be malicious acts of vandalism against Wikipedia.

Moved to LA?
He mentions a lot about Los Angeles, and looking at the LA affiliate web site (xtrasportaradio.com) it for some reason hints that he moved to Los Angeles.

"station KMOK in Kansas City"
The article contains the above line. But KMOK is in Lewiston, Idaho (as a quick Google search shows). These things change, of course, but we're talking about some pretty recent history here. &mdash; Nowhither 21:37, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Right winger??
All this is amazing--I though Mancow was a right-winger based on what I used to hear him spew on the morning Fox and Friends show (back when I had cable TV). Live and learn.


 * Well, A lot of people I know have claimed him to be a conservative from his biting remarks at Bill Clinton. Furthermore, Mancow occasionly makes appearances on Fox News, a rather right-winged news network. Also, I have found an article, which supports my claim. Until either claim can be proven, the statement that he is a libertarian should go. --ShadowJester07 13:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Jim Jesus?
Until very recently, as the article indicates, Jim Jim was known as Jim Jesus. Does anyone know what caused the sudden change in name? Auror 14:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I heard its 'union politics.' Their union is AFTRA.

Al Roker
He doesn't say "Kiss my black ass if you don't like it" anymore. It's something else. Anyone know what it is?

Now he says- 'Call yo mama in from the kitchen, cause she loves this black man!" And then Turd yells "Mom your black mans here!"because he's an ignorant cumt.

aforementioned New City critique of his work?
How can there be an "aforementioned New City critique of his work" when there's no previous mention?

Age?
IMDB and Wikipedia both say he was born in 1966, but I swear I heard him say he was born in 1969. Also, the article says he graduated from CMSU in 1990. So, assuming he went there for four years that means he would have graduated around 1986 and would have been born around 1968. --67.41.245.198 15:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

It's probably because Mancow is shy about admitting his real age. He might have graduated CMSU in 1990, or thereabouts. But that doesn't mean he went there continuously from the time he started there. Many people take leave from college from time to time and for various reasons. Also, many people do not begin college immediately after high school.

But one thing is for sure. Mancow appears in a 1984-85 yearbook at CMSU regarding a theater production. Chances are Mancow graduated in 1984 from high school in the Kansas City area. Thus making 1966 his correct year of birth. Plus, on Fox News Channel's "Fox and Friends", Mancow himself admitted in an interview when he was in studio in New York, he was really 38, which was two years ago, again putting the 1966 birthdate in a state of accuracy.

Mancow
Looks like he got put out to pasture. Mancow has been fired by his flagship station this week. XM 17:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Put out to pasture? not at all. He is doing his show from the studios of WLS and affiliate stations studios around the country. Teamgoon 12:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Cowboy Ray
"On 13 July 2006, After an unexpected turn of events, Cowboy Ray appeared on the show after apparently faking his death...It is unknown at this time whether or not he will be making a permanent return to the show, but it is believed that he will be returning regularly on Friday's...

Mancow's last live show in Chicago was on 11 July 2006. "

How does this work? How was he on his show after the last show? I haven't listened to him in years, but looked at this page after seeing a post about him somewhere. --Kalmia 10:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

That statement is not true. America's Most Wanted held a segment dedicated to Cowboy Ray in order to find his killer. I highly doubt he would have faked his death since witnesses actually saw his body fly across the street when it was hit. --ShadowJester07 13:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Shock Jock
During a recent interview on Fox News Chicago, Mancow lashed out at a reporter who called him a shock jock. Mancow claimed that he is not a shock jock, claiming shock jock's will only do things to gain public interest. --ShadowJester07 13:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

He mailed excrement to his competition and bragged about it. He's a Shock Jock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.183.187.34 (talk) 01:03, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

WLS-AM
Despite what he's has been saying, Mancow is not traveling the country and broadcasting from an old mobile van. Rather he is broadcasting from a studio at WLS-AM in Chicago.

Do you have proof of this, either way?

I'm not sure, but Mancow told Fox News on 7/16 he would be returning to his previous radio station. I can't really remember but I think he said it was an ABC owned station, similar to WLS-AM. --ShadowJester07 01:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Lenghty Lists and other Junk
Aren't the lists of the various guests on the show a little bit too long and pointless? Wouldn't it just be more efficient to just list the most important guests, or just post a link containing that information? Maybe it would help to make a page about Mancow’s show, since it’ has such a major following and has really played a major influence on the Chicagoland radio scene. Also, the section (Well, Really article in general) is incredibly unorganized, and needs proper revision in terms of formatting and tone.
 * The Previous Creators of this article feel that "needs" an elongated section regarding the various other radio guests on Mancow's Morning Madhouse. Although I feel the article needs a mention of the show, It doesn't need a bunch of jargon and self-indulgent cruft; Furthermore, It would be better to just make a new detailed article about the radio show.


 * As For the rest of the article; It needs some cleanup and reorganization, but not the extent of a complete re-writeup. A simple half hour with MS Word should help clean up the article. --ShadowJester07 11:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Since no one cared to provide any dissenting opinions, I deleted the section and moved it to Mancow's Morning Madhouse. The various lists still need to be trimmed down though. Also, both articles are in need of a copy-edit by a more "veteran" Wikipedian --ShadowJester07 00:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair and equal treatment for Mancow and his show
The reason for Mancow and his cohorts background is so that the readers who may not know about those people can have that little piece of information. On other radio show pages on Wikipedia, there are elaborated biographical pieces of information about the hosts and their sidekicks. Mancow's show should be no different. And just because the creator or whoever that may feel superior to omit pieces of information just because he or she feels like "it's not NECESSARY" should realize one thing. This file is for Wikipedia and its readers, NOT JUST FOR THE SATISFACTION OF THE CREATOR! --Maddawg1967

Question
Are Rusty Humphries and Mancow in fact the same person? This is not a joke I really think they may be the same guy. Flagg 29
 * No, they are not the same person. More importantly, why do you think that they are? &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 00:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I had heard Humphries before and when I first heard Mancow thier voices and vocal delivery seemed very similar. After hearing Mancow for a week or so I noticed his political views were in the same vein as well. I know that in radio it is very common for a personality to have more than one alias, so i thought they may be the same guy. Thier ages are very close to one another and I believe they both may have 2 children.Flagg 29
 * I don't hear any similarity between their voices, but as peers in the industry, it is not uncommon for them to be around the same age, have similar beliefs, a family, etc. It looks like you are merely focusing on shared qualities while ignoring their obvious differences.  Put a list together and you will be forced to agree with me.  &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 23:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I know this is old but Rusty was a producer for Mancow's show for a bit and they are friends and definitely two different people. Maybe Mancow influenced Rusty's style a bit? Here's an old pic of Mancow and Rusty together. --12.205.193.140 (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Libertarian?
I watch and listen to Mancow very often, and since when is he a Libertarian? He seems very conservative.
 * There's a link provided next to the claim. Mind you, A libertarian has rather right-winged economic beliefs ;) or something like that... --ShadowJester07 02:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

If you listen to Mancow "very often" you would have heard Mancow himself say he is a libertarian. --Gamegrid

Sofa King
Recently there was an AfD discussion (see Articles_for_deletion/Sofa_King) about the sofa king article. The result was that it was redirected here, however NOTHING on this page mentions the sofa kind incident at all. Can someone who actually knows something about the incident incorporate it? The sofa king article should have all the history still intact because it was a redirect instead of a delete. Plymouths 18:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes- the redirection of sofa king to here leaves people unfamiliar with this guy, a little confused. Naysie 00:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

New studios
Mancow is still doing his syndicated morning show in Chicago, except now he's doing his show in his own new studios at 162 N. Franklin. 

Sofa King
Why the blazes does Sofa King redirect here?

POV-section
Folks. I think there is a problem with this sentence fragment from the Lawsuits section: "another suit against a man who reported Mancow to the FCC for alleged indecency on the air, which Mancow withdrew as it was merely a publicity stunt."

First, the sentence structure is confusing. Did Mancow withdraw it as a publicity stunt or did the "man who reported Mancow."

Second, my understanding is the complaints with the FCC were found to be valid and the "man who reported Mancow" had his picture and a story about this appear on the first page of the Wall Street Journal way back when. I find a front page WSJ article to be significant, yet absent from this page. Further, I believe the issue of the FCC complaints, particularly where they were found valid, is absent as well here. And the identity of the person filing the complaints is just "a man who reported Mancow to the FCC." I find that this combination of factors leads me to conclude this section was written with a definite POV.

So in addition to being a confusing sentence from a grammatical point of view, the statement may be misleading from a factual point of view as well, and full information is not provided. And that necessarily means the sources cited need to be added/improved as well.

Now before anyone raises the issue of my supposed personal bias (and a have a small coterie of followers who do just that), let me be clear that I am merely raising the issue and leaving this to others to figure out, admitting that I do not have the full facts on hand, and this has nothing to do with public libraries. It just looks odd to me, and that's the purpose of wiki editors all working together to improve sections.

Anyone wish to improve the section? I have enough knowledge to challenge the statement and explain why, but not to add the required information to make the section wikiworthy. Thanks. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 21:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Planet Mancow year?
"On Saturday, November 18, 9:00 PM EST, Mancow hosted his own show on Fox News titled "Planet Mancow" featuring his friend[1] William Shatner."

Either the year should be added to this statement, or it should be deleted altogether.69.222.55.180 02:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Allegedly Devastated
What does "allegedly devastated" really mean? Doesn't a statement like that need proof of Mancow's insincerity? --205.237.164.127 (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Clarify Two Shows
So it really isn't clear to me if he is doing the 'madhouse' on the new WLS station move, or if he is doing a separate show to the madhouse show, if this is the case, how many hours total is he on air each weekday, it must be a long shift comparable to other radio stars. What is it like 3 hours per show? I don't understand it isn't clear. I'm sorry I think this article should make the distinction between the two separate shows, separate times they are on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.130.9.244 (talk) 15:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Waterboarding
At least one editor (there may be others) seems to take issue with the phrase "it was later revealed that the procedure may not have been performed properly." It is perhaps a bit strong, in that it comes close to drawing a conclusion. I suggest the more passive "questions were later raised about the validity of the procedure," or something similar. Of course, the neutrality tag should also be removed if we go with something like this. Comments? Suggestions? Mark Shaw (talk) 20:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * sounds good. Cloud02 (talk) 21:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd like to let 12-24 hours go by for more possible comment before making the change, if that's okay with you. Mark Shaw (talk) 21:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Name
Why is he called "Mancow". I don't see that anywhere in the article. Tad Lincoln (talk) 05:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason that you don't see it is that it is not there. The first question that would come to anyone's mind is left unanswered. It is an unsolvable mystery. The best minds are currently at work on it, though, so we may have an answer some day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.61.180.202 (talk) 00:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The nickname Mancow came about as a result of a role in a play while a Theater major at Central Mo. State University. Erich played the role of a half-man, half-animal. Somehow he got labled "Mancow" for it and the nickname stuck. I have a very good source for this and it's included in the rewrite/expansion I'm currently working on. Sector001 (talk) 19:19, 30 August 2013 (UTC)