Talk:Mandrill/Archive 1

Popular Culture
Should a segment mentioning the Mandrill in Popular Culture be added? One example that comes to mind is Rafiki from the Lion King —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MelicansMatkin (talk • contribs).

Also mandrills are mentioned in the drugs episode of Brasseye as carriers of drugs for dealers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.220.22 (talk) 17:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a separate section on mandrills in popular culture is warranted, but a reference to The Lion King in the introduction to the article seemed (to me) totally inappropriate. Danny oldsen (talk) 03:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Terrestrial - it doesn't live in water
The Mandrill is of course a terrestrial mammal, the sentence about its feeding habits needs to be altered to say something like "ground-dwelling" instead of "terrestrial". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.26.201.121 (talk • contribs).
 * Terrestrial means ground-dwelling, in this context, as opposed to aquatic. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, obviously it doesn't mean 'as opposed to aquatic'  it means as opposed to arboreal. Nobody thinks monkeys swim, the question is trees or not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:43, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Recently
How recently has it been classed as separate from baboons? Aeronox 13:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Groups of up to 800 individuals?
This passage sounds extremely dubious to me. I cannot imagine a primate living in a group with 800 individuals unless it is in captivity. I'm going to remove the passage until someone either corrects it or finds a reliable source.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 12:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Now it says that the largest group ever recorded was 1300. According to [], groups range from 345-850, which would make the original claim accurate, and the new "largest group recorded" at least plausable. A quick google searchs finds the claim of 1300 mentioned in a book here: [] 99.246.109.131 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Etymology
I've removed the sentence from the lead that said that the word means "man-ape" according to the OED. I have access to the OED, and it says nothing of the sort. The etymology is in doubt, and the full story is too involved to go into in this article, this not being a dictionary. The "man" part might be a corruption of "martin", an old word for "monkey", and the "drill" part might derive from an African word for the animal, but the OED doesn't say which word in what language, so why bother? --Milkbreath (talk) 10:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Colors - Pigments
Does anyone know the physiology of the brilliant coloration of these animals? Does their skin actually produce several different pigments, or is it something like bird feathers where it's just how the light hits it? I would think monkeys just had regular melanin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Take a look here for at least a partial answer. In short: translucent epidermis, melanin granules in dermis, and blood vessel dilation give the red, pink, mauve and blue colours. That's the best I could find with a quick Google or two :) Kay Dekker (talk) 00:17, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

But I still can't know... Sky6t (talk) 04:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Missing information
What do mandrills eat? I'd add it myself, but I have no idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.99.49 (talk) 13:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Comments
The mandrill article is listed as a “B” article. The contents are limited to description, ecology and activities, social behavior and reproduction, and status and conservation. No section has any subcategories. Within social behavior and reproduction, group living is briefly described with sources followed by a more extensive overview on reproduction. There is opportunity to improve this section by expanding upon the social behavior if references are available. Additionally, there is likely a correlation to kin selection based on the breeding patterns of adult males. Overall, the article needs more information in each category with an increase in organization. The citations appear to be numerous and sufficient. The article is listed as a high priority article for editing in the primates WikiProject. A few members edit the article multiple times a month. Though there are nearly forty citations on the article, it appears from the talk section that more concrete information is needed before this article and be improved further. Katims90 (talk) 19:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Change of images
I have moved the previous lead image as this is only the male and gives no indication of body shape, body size, quadripedal stance, etc. I included an image of a female in the taxobox so readers gain an idea of the extent of sexual dimorphism - a very important aspect of mandrills. I moved the previous lead image (what a great photo!) to replace a "mandrill with a flower" which I felt was not particularly informative. Happy to discuss these changes.__DrChrissy (talk) 09:59, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

As a food source
Can someone knowledgeable please expand the material about the practice of eating mandrills as bushmeat? How it is hunted, prepared, what it tastes like, etc? Holdek (talk) 06:44, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * To add that, we do not need someone knowledgeable, we need a reliable source discussing it. Take a look around and let us know what you find! - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 14:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Mandrills are the world's largest monkeys   NO they are not!
"Mandrills are the world's largest extant, non ape monkeys!" That is correct.--ArnoldHimmler (talk) 05:49, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * In common usage, monkeys are not apes. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:33, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Well thats great, but is wiki about being correct or what most people say by slang? Do you have a ref for your claim? Do you want to fix all the other ape pages? as they use the fact not your street slang. Also all the taxonomy references as they use the fact and not the street slang.--ArnoldHimmler (talk) 04:11, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Monkey -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:38, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Drill picture
Why is there a drill picture in an article about the mandrill? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatureLover96 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)