Talk:Mangrove black hawk

spink-speenk-speenk-spink-spink-spink...?
Is there a methodology to the onomatepoeia of birdsong? For instance what is the difference between 'spink' and 'speenk'? Is this even helpful information in any way? Ddddan 22:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is helpful. 184.69.174.194 (talk) 01:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Picture
Should this be included in the article? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:48, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for posting. I cropped it to make the bird bigger, and inserted it. I suppose the subtitle could mention that he is only pretty certain it is a mbh, but it is listed in the picture info. 184.69.174.194 (talk) 01:12, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Nominate is confusing! Help!
This section in the lead needs clarification for non-biologists.

"but all individuals from western Panama and northwards are nominate common black hawk."

My mind wants a plural "hawks", "all individuals are _____ hawks", or a better sentence to state it in layman's terms while introducing the word "nominate", which is spelled the same as the more common elective process. TX


 * Also, it would be helpful if an ornithologist could weigh in on what the defining difference is that makes it a subspecies. Is it just range, or is there morphology involved. 184.69.174.194 (talk) 00:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)