Talk:Manifesto of Futurism

Although the text is properly moved to Wikisource, the commentary and background properly belong here. I saw nothing in the talk page about why all this was moved to Wikisource.

This page doesn't look particularly pretty. Does its founder want to clean it up a bit?

French, english and italian versions
There is something I can´t understand: was it published originally in italian or french? I´ve been looking for different translations, and all the french versions I see have only 5 articles, but I have alse seen small, difficult to read pictures of the original paper, and it looks like it was the 11 articles italian version. Why is this french version so popular, are they all copied-and-pasted versions of some mistaken text?!

The english version at wikisource was also missing a final part in the 11th article. And the italian version, also in wikisource, was missing some important sentences, like the one about "disprezzo della donna". Why it it so difficult to find an integral version of this manifesto!? -- NIC1138 18:57, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

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I believe it was originally published in Le Figaro in Paris on 20 Feb 1909, hence the original would have been in French.

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Italian versions:

[] mentions that the Manifesto appeared in Italian about two weeks before the Le Figaro (French) version. There is apparently an 18 May 2008 (p. 57) reprint of the Manifesto in the successor to the original Italian paper (which I take to be ).

An Italian version of the Manifesto is found in an undated anthology called (in English), The Futurist Manifestos. (The anthology appears to be chronological; the last piece is dated 1918):

French version:

Le Figaro version:

Notes:

The anthology claims that its (Italian) version was published in Le Figaro; however, the Le Figaro article was in French. The French and Italian variants are not identical and seem to mirror the differences found in the prevalent English translations. It would be beneficial if someone proficient in Italian, French, and English would compare the two early versions that I mention above and perhaps find the recent Italian reprint mentioned in the wikipedia.it article. Thank you.

131.252.209.128 (talk) 09:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Fotoguzzi (talk) 15:57, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Explain
This article seems to expect that the reader will look up the manifest himself. Example: The heavy provocation included in article 10 is a logical consequence of the whole above. This should be explained more: what is this heavy provocation? Piet 14:33, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

"The" or "-"
The article's title in the article itself is "The Futurist Manifesto", as shown here with "The" not in bold. What is the proper title of the article? Does it include the "the" or not? --SteelersFan UK06 01:54, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Fascism
I have removed the reference to Fascism at the beginning of the article because it was full of mistakes. Futurism did not give rise to Fascism: Fascism was born out the the political and social conditions of Italy. A relationship between Futurism and Fascism developed ten years after the publication of the Futurist Manifesto as part of what was called Secondo Futurismo; Fascism did not exist between 1909 and 1916, which may be said to mark the beginning and end of the first wave of Futurism. Indeed, during most of this period Mussolini himself was a socialist. The first wave of Futurism combined anarchism and nationalism. The later close relationship between Secondo Futurismo and Fascism is well-known and no-one has never attempted to hide it. - Marshall46 18:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Manifestio
as it turns out the manifesto itself has been unavailable in English for years, have kicked it around and it should be translated and made available in english. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Futurist_Manifesto — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhaddonpearson (talk • contribs) 02:28, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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