Talk:Manjappada/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: ArnabSaha (talk · contribs) 07:55, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it well written?
 * A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
 * B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
 * 1) Is it verifiable with no original research?
 * A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
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 * C. It contains no original research:
 * D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
 * B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
 * 1) Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
 * 1) Is it stable?
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Comments

 * Why its named "Manjappada Kerala Blasters Fans" instead of just Manjappada? I couldn't even find this in fanclub's website. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Citations aren't properly formatted. Like author's name, source date missing. ✅ Iamfarzan (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Awards and recognition" - this part is unsourced. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Swap the positions of "controversy" and "Awards" section. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "...claimed them as Manjappada members" - the citation doesnt say this. It says, "member of manjappada" ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Chants and tifos" - the section says noting about chants. ✅Shahoodu (talk) 07:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Integrate "Women's group" in history. its just a single sentence para. (MOS:PARA) ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Add English translations for non-English citations. ✅ Iamfarzan (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Citation [40] is a dead link. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 07:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Manjappada have an ... games to fans." - unencyclopaedic. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Awards and recognition" add prose to this section. ✅ Poppified (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * An image is notimated for deletion.✅ Shahoodu (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Avoid caps in citations like in citation [23]. (WP:ALLCAPS) ✅ Iamfarzan (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Break the lead into 2 parts and expand them a bit. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 14:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Needs a lit bit more expansion. Add the establishment time, travelling fans, yellow colour. This would be my final point of the review.  Saha ❯❯❯  Stay safe    12:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC) ✅ Poppified (talk) 13:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Citation doesn't say manjappda won 2020 fan club award. ✅Shahoodu (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * How boycotting matches is a controversy? ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The lead should compile all the info present in the body. But things like Indian Sports Honours, 14 districts etc. aren't present in the body.✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It says "12 other Indian states" but, not mentioned in the body.  Saha ❯❯❯  Stay safe    07:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC) Comment: I missed to add 12. Now its ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 09:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Avoid citations in lead. (WP:CITELEAD)✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * For the chant, use instead of the existing  ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Mention with citation that manjappada means yellow army, in the body.✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Not everyone who... - this starts with quotation, but doesn't end. ✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think its required to mention "The 12th Man" in the lead. Its a normal thing for all the clubs. Nothing distinct. Even there's a article on this 12th man (football). ✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If there's not specific author of any source, nothing required to mention. Like its mentioned 'no-author' incitation [48]. its not required ✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This still exists. Like in citation [30] Goal is written in author's name.  Saha ❯❯❯  Stay safe  </b> </b> 06:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC) ✅ Iamfarzan (talk) 06:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The citation [39] doesn't prove this "The group wear as..." ✅
 * Use – between years. (2020–21, instead of 2020-21) ✅Shahoodu (talk) 17:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Citation [90] is a blog. Need a another source (WP:BLOG). Comment: Couldnt fins better source. So removed it from lede and body ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 18:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It mentions "ISL" multiple times. A first time reader will have no idea what ISL is. Add "Indian Super League (ISL)" wherever its mentioned first. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 06:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Citation [13] doesnt say, Manjapadda is spread accross 44 countries.
 * Comment: Added proper citation ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 08:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * " ..49,000 during the inaugural season" - link the inaugural season with the season article. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "...150 flags are used for each game." - citation doesn't say 150 flags. Try to solve the data issues like these. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "The active social ... to fans." - Even smaller fanclubs provide regular updates in social media. so, I dont think, its required to mention. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Add "rivalry", "other activities" in the lead as the lead summarises everything in the body. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 17:05, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * In the infobox, |Abbreviation=Manjappada. How??✅ Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikilink 'keralite' in the body ✅ Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * citation [71] is a dead link ✅ Poppified (talk) 16:25, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * citation [40] is in malayalam. but the title mentioned in ref is in english only.✅Poppified (talk) 16:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * in citation [87], instead of "Manjappada | Heart Beat of Kerala Blasters.", mention only "manjappada" ✅ Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "I can only wish it wont happen again" - won't ✅ Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "The event was a initiative aimed at honouring sports" - "an initiative" ✅ Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Manjappada members occupies it during" -- "occupy" ✅ Poppified (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "the West Block Blues, the largest supporters' group of Bengaluru FC" - citation doesnt say its the largest✅ Poppified (talk) 10:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Any dimensions available for the tifo? if yes, add it. ✅ Poppified (talk)
 * In the section "Chants and tifos", it starts with "Apart from their official anthem, Manjappada..." - I would suggest adding some details for the anthem. search some Malayalam sources.✅ Poppified (talk) 08:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * wikilink the first "Kerala" in the body ✅ Poppified (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * add an external links section and put the website there. ✅ Poppified (talk) 03:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * As of when manjapadda is spread over 12 states, 14 districts, 44 countries? and avoid using "currently" (WP:Currently) ✅ Poppified (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't see any other issues. <b style="border:1px solid black"> <b style="color:#FF0000">Saha</b> ❯❯❯ <b style="color:#0043AF"> Stay safe  </b> </b> 16:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Comments by Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI
✅Poppified (talk) 11:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The first sentence in the lead - 'Manjappada are the organised supporters' group of KBFC"... are they the only organised fan group? I suggest changing the to an, or, if you have a source for it, the largest. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse &#124; fings wot i hav dun 07:42, 19 December 2020 (UTC) Changed the into an ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 08:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ambox warning pn.svg At the logo page provide rationales for WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC, i.e. for why it is not replaceable by free-use media and why you think it won't hurt the owners commercially, ASAP. (Second point is not too important, but do try to justify NFCC#1). If you cannot then explain why. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse &#124; fings wot i hav dun 07:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Comments by Lee Vilenski (in WP:Discord)

 * During the 2018–19 season, the Blasters were winless in 14 games and fans became dissatisfied with the management's indifference towards them. Although Manjappada boycotted a December 2018 game against Jamshedpur FC,[19] "We don’t intend to boycott our club’s matches, since our motto is 'Nammalk Nammalund' ('We have us')" stated the group. - not really sure what this means ✅Shahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The "Manjappada stand" originated in 2014, during the Blasters' first season.[ - what is this? :Clarified ✅Shahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Id argue that culture section needs a rewrite - most of it is obvious, or pointless. ✅ Shahoodu (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * There's a few refs that have weird |work parameters, such as Sportskeeda APP is the No 1 Personalised Sports APP available today. Just select your fav teams & players and you are done. ✅. Iamfarzan (talk) 13:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)